I don't know how many times I've posted that table showing the negative run value of a K and BIP out in every base/out situation. It's based on the results of thousands of MLB games and it clearly shows that there's little difference on the balance. If that's not good enough, then nothing will be. The Cubs score a lot of runs because Theriot and DeRosa make the right kind of outs? I would think it.s because of their NL leading OBP (.355!) and the fact that they have a SLG higher than the Brewers. Get on base, move runners over. That's the foundation of scoring runs, not small ball. The Brewers do half of that well, which is why they still have an above average offense, despite having a ton of Ks. The facts just don't support what you guys are saying. It shouldn't surprise anyone that the suject has been studied in great detail. Now, if you want to argue the benefit of putting more balls into play (that may or may not result in an out) over a K, that's a completely different argument. A good projection system knows that a batter's K rate is very important. Some seem to confuse the two, however.