6/23/07 Royals (Bannister) @ Brewers (Bush): 6:05 PM CDT

[steve267268]

Alright guys, great sign to see Bush looking dominate (on paper for me at least). You have to like your chances tomorrow with Big Ben on the mound.

 

 

The Royals were who we THOUGHT they were.

[hawing]

Are you doing these "magic number" image searches game by game, Brian, or do you have the next 81 ready to roll?

[rluzinski]

Prospect or not, there was no chance Gwynn would have the offensive production to justify starting in RF. He needs to start in CF to have value and he's blocked.

 

Hey look, there's a Brewer game on and they won again! 19-21 run since their great start, though. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/frown.gif

[And That]

Gwynn will have a career in Milwaukee if Hall moves to left. That's all there is to it.

[Brian the Automator]

[ Are you doing these "magic number" image searches game by game, Brian, or do you have the next 81 ready to roll? ]

 

They're game by game. Gotta keep it real.

[hawing]

You have to like your chances tomorrow with Big Ben on the mound.

 

Steve, it's Yo pitching Sunday.

[TheCrew07]

Funny you mention Suppan, we were talking about what to do with him today if he ends up being the worst pitcher on the staff. Villy and Yo are up, Villy is a STARTER longterm in my opinion. We'll have to see how things shake out, but that's a tough contract to move if you want to.

 

edit. The best part of this weekend is I'll be at the game tomorrow to watch Yo in person.

[brewcrew00]

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You have to like your chances tomorrow with Big Ben on the mound.

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Big Ben isn't throwing tomorrow, Yo is going. I believe Benny gets the extra day and will throw Monday against Houston.

[Bernman23]

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Prospect or not, there was no chance Gwynn would have the offensive production to justify starting in RF. He needs to start in CF to have value and he's blocked

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I agree. But at the time, Gwynn was the best option option to play in the outfield and hit at the top of the order. Hart had an OBP in the .320's. The other two outfielders were Mench and Gross. Hart has since exploded. Hall can always move to corner outfield. He's changed positions about 4 times already to accomodate the team, what's one more?

[brewcrew00]

Beat me to it by a minute, my bad http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

[DougJones43]

Doug Jones, I already talked extensively about why I thought Gwynn Jr. was a prospect.

 

While I disagree with your reasoning, I respect that you actually outlined a series of points debating the common criticisms of Gwynn.

 

Do you really think the fact that other teams have been able to win with weak hitters in their lineups is really a good endorsement for Gwynn though? I don't. You actually made the argument that the Cards and Marlins won "in spite" of Eckstein and Pierre. If you're winning in spite of something, that means you'd be better off without it.

[Bernman23]

When I said in spite of, I meant it sarcastically.

[DougJones43]

When I said in spite of, I meant it sarcastically.

 

Fair enough. I would have meant it literally. I wouldn't want Pierre or Eckstein on my team. I think Gwynn projects similarly to Pierre, although he hasn't been able to steal bases nearly as well.

[hawing]

The best part of this weekend is I'll be at the game tomorrow to watch Yo in person.

 

I'm beginning to think Sunday's game will have a record number of bf.net posters at it.

Even pitchleague!

[wibadgers23]

I didn't get to watch the game tonight and I was wondering what in the world happened with this play that happened in the top of the 2nd:

 

Tony F. Pena: Foul, Ball, Strike swinging, Ball, Pena popped out to shortstop, Shealy out at second.

[whizkid]

Counsell caught it in short left center and the runner wandered off too far. Just stupid base running.

[Lil Dummy]

Second night in a row I've TIVOd the game and watched the next morning. Man, how enjoyable have the first two games of this Royals series been? Everything is going the Crew's way again.

 

Agree with pebadger about the call after the slo-mo replay of the deflected pitch that Estrada took square in the jewels. Great deadpan by Schroeder.

 

By the way, as great as it is to be a Brewer fan right now, pretty pathetic that this thread turned into a debate about Tony freaking Gwynn. I'm embarrassed on behalf of those who perpetuated it. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/frown.gif