Brewers' Current Payroll

[uwisfan]

considering Prince is off the books next year, you deduct the $2MM from the Royals as cash in hand this year

[Point Beer Is Best]

As mentioned in the other thread, Seattle is actually paying 1 million of Betancourt's salary this year. Not sure how that works with the player traded to a third party team?

I think we had the exact same situation with Bill Hall last year, where we paid most of his salary directly to Boston after we traded him first to Seattle. The fact we were sending money to one of the "Haves" in baseball made my head hurt.

[Invader3K]

*bump*

 

With the Saito signing, the Brewers must be around $86 million or so?

[dadofandrew]

I'm at $82Mish, but no one knows what Prince and Rickie will end up playing for.

 

http://albethke.blogspot....oster-gallardo-wolf.html

[Invader3K]

Al, if you are right, they may have some wiggle room to add some more payroll before the season after all.

[DHonks]

Invader, I would assume any wiggle room would go to adding a pitcher/bat at the trade deadline. We know from past comments that Melvin budgets for in-season acquisitions. Some team might beg us to take a $10-20 million per year player off their payroll midseason.

[thebruce44]

I'm at $82Mish, but no one knows what Prince and Rickie will end up playing for.

 

http://albethke.blogspot....oster-gallardo-wolf.html

Anyone know how much of Wolf's deferred salary from last year he gets this year? If its around $4 mil, that puts up back up to $86 and removes some of that wiggle room.

[dadofandrew]

I assume the $4M is deferred until at least 2013, when the current deal is over. Otherwise it would not really be deferred, it'd just be less in '10, more in '11.

[logan82]

Probably $2m this year and $2m next year.

[thebruce44]

Probably $2m this year and $2m next year.

I think that makes the most sense. My understanding at the time was that they were trying to get their two pitchers onto the roster in a season with the dead weight hanging over them. After dumping Hall and Soups contracts they could pay it back. I don't know how they could put it off to 2013.

[HiAndTight]

Invader, I would assume any wiggle room would go to adding a pitcher/bat at the trade deadline. We know from past comments that Melvin budgets for in-season acquisitions. Some team might beg us to take a $10-20 million per year player off their payroll midseason.

That would be interesting. We spent about 95 million last year and with the complete gutting of the farm system, we'll see where they are willing to go this year. I would think at least that high should the opportunity to add a player who could put us over the top arise.

[Bombers]

Using the Salaries link and the latest contract information that has come out, the Brewers will sit somewhere between $86.73 - $91.68 million for this year. (And that doesn't include any callups or mid-season trades)

Player	2011 - Low	2011 - High
John Axford	0.4145	0.4145
Yuniesky Betancourt	4	4
Brandon Boggs	0.4145	0.4145
Zach Braddock	0.4145	0.4145
Ryan Braun	4	4
Craig Counsell	1.4	1.4
Chris Dickerson	0.4145	0.4145
Pat Egan	0.4145	0.4145
Prince Fielder	15.5	15.5
Yovani Gallardo	3.25	3.25
Mat Gamel	0.4145	0.4145
Carlos Gomez	1.5	1.5
Sean Green	0.875	0.875
Zack Greinke	13.5	13.5
Corey Hart	6.5	6.5
LaTroy Hawkins	4	4
Justin James	0.4145	0.4145
Brandon Kintzler	0.4145	0.4145
George Kottaras	0.4145	0.4145
Cameron Loe	1.055	1.65
Jonathan Lucroy	0.4145	0.4145
Shaun Marcum	3	5
Mike McClendon	0.4145	0.4145
Casey McGehee	0.4145	0.4145
Chris Narveson	0.4145	0.4145
Wil Nieves	0.775	0.775
Manny Parra	1.2	1.2
Mark Rogers	0.4145	0.4145
Takashi Saito	1.75	1.75
Mitch Stetter	0.4145	0.4145
Rickie Weeks	4.85	7.2
Randy Wolf	9.5	9.5
Total:	82.8725	87.8175
Suppan (Buyout)	2	2
Zaun (Buyout)	0.25	0.25
Hoffman (Buyout)	0.5	0.5
Davis (Buyout)	1	1
Riske (Buyout)	0.25	0.25
Grand Total	86.8725	91.8175

[dadofandrew]

I know they announced the new MLB minimum a couple weeks ago, but it's higher than $400K.

 

$414K.

[Bombers]

Good catch ... I updated it and it bumped it up a little http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

[And That]

And with the Brewers performance bonuses for guys making the minimum, there will probably be another $300K+ in salary expenses for those guys.

[Jim Goulart]

Re: the Brewerfan salary page, normally by the time the 25-man roster is finalized, we know specific amounts for all the pre-arby guys, and we'll adjust from the generic $400,000 placeholder then. But the additional info is always appreciated.

[And That]

At this point, it appears the Brewers again are headed for a payroll in

the $85 million neighborhood. They budget another $5 million for

contract incentives and call-ups from the minors, so club officials see

it as a $90 million payroll.

Link.

 

Not sure if the $90M number includes buyouts or not. Looks like I was pretty close, as were most others.

[Invader3K]

Some very interesting comments from Mr. Attanasio in there. I like his seemingly newfound philosophy of letting the talent dictate the payroll, and not setting a hard number to "shoot for" like in the past couple years.

 

A bit disconcerting that he claims the team lost money last year and might lose money again this season. Not sure how that will sustainable long term.

[Funketown]

A bit disconcerting that he claims the team lost money last year and might lose money again this season. Not sure how that will sustainable long term.

I'm just curious if anybody has actually seen the numbers on this team. Owners often play the poor card even when their clubs are profitable.

[Invader3K]

Baseball teams don't disclose their revenues. A lot of it depends on how the accounting is done (amount of debt service, depreciation, etc).

[Funketown]

^ I thought teams did disclose revenues but their figures were somewhat difficult to interpret due to the accounting, as you mentioned.

[mothershipconnection]

A bit disconcerting that he claims the team lost money last year and might lose money again this season. Not sure how that will sustainable long term.

 

It won't be if they can't win. If you lose a few million and win games, through, the appreciation of the franchise value, ability to negotiate higher media contracts, and sell tickets/raise prices, it will still be profitable.