2020 Miscellaneous NFL News

[PinaMadness]

This HAS to be it for Jason Garrett, right?

[HiAndTight]

I mean, what was the plan on offense? McCarthy might want to take that over. Looking like an awful game plan so far.

 

The plan in GB was "let Aaron Rodgers do stuff". Seemed to be working for Dak too. Not so much with Andy.

 

 

Andy Dalton should be able to lead that offense to a winning record. Dalton's not great, but he's not a scrub. Though they are down Smith, Frederick, and Collins from last year. That's 3 All-Pro Caliber OL. Still, best trio of WR'ers in the NFL and Zeke.

[HiAndTight]

This HAS to be it for Jason Garrett, right?

 

 

Garrett? I think you're a year behind, he's in New York...which to be fair is terrible and he should be fired from there as well, but if you thought enough of him to hire him before this season, firing him wouldn't make much sense as he has almost nothing to work with. Not even Barkley.

[PinaMadness]

This HAS to be it for Jason Garrett, right?

 

 

Garrett? I think you're a year behind, he's in New York...which to be fair is terrible and he should be fired from there as well, but if you thought enough of him to hire him before this season, firing him wouldn't make much sense as he has almost nothing to work with. Not even Barkley.

[sarcasm]This HAS to be it for Jason Garrett, right?[/sarcasm]

[yourout]

MM might not even survive one season in Dallas.

[PinaMadness]

MM might not even survive one season in Dallas.

But he's a highly successful football coach.

[PinaMadness]

I LOVE seeing shots of the Cowboys fans in agony.

[nodakfan17]

McCarthy without Favre or Rodgers: 8-16–1 (0.340)

 

He’ll get a pass with Dak’s injury.

[pacopete4]

Are we really now slamming McCarthy in Dallas after he’s lost his starting QB and most of his starting offensive line in year one of a job? Packer fans have become some of the worst.

[nodakfan17]

I actually think MM is a decent guy/coach. You wouldn’t hear a peep from me if he was coaching the Jets or Jaguars. I just hate the Cowboys.

[MrTPlush]

Over/under on wins for the NFC East champion at 6.5

 

I know there has to be some bad divisions in history, but wow, six teams in football have as many wins as that entire division combined.

[Underachiever]

MM might not even survive one season in Dallas.

But he's a highly successful football coach.

Beautiful passive-aggressive quote from MM last night: "most importantly, I didn't coach very well. I have a continuing issue with ball security on my football team." My wife couldn't have said it better.

 

I give him bonus points for use of the word "football" to describe his team, so we know which team he is talking about. And as far as ball security, you ALWAYS hear rookies say that the hardest adjustment to pro ball is that they aren't allowed to fumble the ball on every play. I guess without a proper training camp, MM was unable to teach that part.

[CheezWizHed]

Are we really now slamming McCarthy in Dallas after he’s lost his starting QB and most of his starting offensive line in year one of a job? Packer fans have become some of the worst.

 

I would say what you are seeing is 95% schadenfreude because it's the Cowboys and 5% interest to see if Rodgers propped up MM for years, thus wasting most of Rodgers' prime years. I don't think anyone here holds ill-will against Mike the man himself.

 

If you think this is "the worst", you don't spend much time on other forums. Of course, people troll those forums too.

[homer]

Are we really now slamming McCarthy in Dallas after he’s lost his starting QB and most of his starting offensive line in year one of a job? Packer fans have become some of the worst.

 

Also this:

[Underachiever]

I wouldn't call it slamming him. It's been, what two or three posters? and like the guy before me, I think it has more to do with Cowboy hate.

[pacopete4]

Are we really now slamming McCarthy in Dallas after he’s lost his starting QB and most of his starting offensive line in year one of a job? Packer fans have become some of the worst.

 

I'm not slamming him. This guy seems to be:

 

I mean, what was the plan on offense? McCarthy might want to take that over. Looking like an awful game plan so far.

 

Really poor post here. How is this slamming him? I think he is a good offensive-minded coach and I think it is a mistake for him to let another person call plays for that team right now.

[Underachiever]

Are we really now slamming McCarthy in Dallas after he’s lost his starting QB and most of his starting offensive line in year one of a job? Packer fans have become some of the worst.

 

I'm not slamming him. This guy seems to be:

 

I mean, what was the plan on offense? McCarthy might want to take that over. Looking like an awful game plan so far.

 

Really poor post here. How is this slamming him? I think he is a good offensive-minded coach and I think it is a mistake for him to let another person call plays for that team right now.

I misread. Thought it was funny. My apologies. Tried to edit before it got noticed, but didn't make it.

[adambr2]

Cowboys players discontent with coaches after 2-4 start https://www.nfl.com/news/cowboys-players-express-discontent-with-coaches-after-2-4-start

 

Not sure his players think he's a great coach.

[PinaMadness]

Cowboys players discontent with coaches after 2-4 start https://www.nfl.com/news/cowboys-players-express-discontent-with-coaches-after-2-4-start

 

Not sure his players think he's a great coach.

NFL Network's Jane Slater reported players are starting to let their discontent be known. One player told Slater that Mike McCarthy's staff is "totally unprepared. They don't teach. They don't have any sense of adjusting on the fly."

 

"They just aren't good at their jobs," another player told Slater.

 

Hmm, sounds pretty familiar.

[CheezWizHed]

Wow. The honeymoon is over...quickly.

[HiAndTight]

Cowboys players discontent with coaches after 2-4 start https://www.nfl.com/news/cowboys-players-express-discontent-with-coaches-after-2-4-start

 

Not sure his players think he's a great coach.

 

 

Rodgers actually stuck up for him pretty strongly today on McAfee's show. Calling it cowardly and ridiculous to call him out after 6 weeks.

 

I wonder if THAT will make news? That the guy Rodgers "ran off" is the guy who he's defending now?

[adambr2]

Cowboys players discontent with coaches after 2-4 start https://www.nfl.com/news/cowboys-players-express-discontent-with-coaches-after-2-4-start

 

Not sure his players think he's a great coach.

 

 

Rodgers actually stuck up for him pretty strongly today on McAfee's show. Calling it cowardly and ridiculous to call him out after 6 weeks.

 

I wonder if THAT will make news? That the guy Rodgers "ran off" is the guy who he's defending now?

 

Yeah, I agree with Rodgers there. Dallas was pretty mediocre for their talent level under Garrett too, so perhaps it's time the players there look in the mirror a little bit at the problem.

 

I'm not a big fan of the concept of "Packer people", but Dallas is notorious for not giving two rips about character. They'll hire every troubled thug they can get their hands on (see Aldon Smith, Randy Gregory, etc). Jerry couldn't care less about your off the field issues as long as you have talent.

 

So I really don't think it's a coincidence that their team chemistry and locker room always sucks.

[HiAndTight]

Cowboys players discontent with coaches after 2-4 start https://www.nfl.com/news/cowboys-players-express-discontent-with-coaches-after-2-4-start

 

Not sure his players think he's a great coach.

 

 

Rodgers actually stuck up for him pretty strongly today on McAfee's show. Calling it cowardly and ridiculous to call him out after 6 weeks.

 

I wonder if THAT will make news? That the guy Rodgers "ran off" is the guy who he's defending now?

 

Yeah, I agree with Rodgers there. Dallas was pretty mediocre for their talent level under Garrett too, so perhaps it's time the players there look in the mirror a little bit at the problem.

 

I'm not a big fan of the concept of "Packer people", but Dallas is notorious for not giving two rips about character. They'll hire every troubled thug they can get their hands on (see Aldon Smith, Randy Gregory, etc). Jerry couldn't care less about your off the field issues as long as you have talent.

 

So I really don't think it's a coincidence that their team chemistry and locker room always sucks.

 

 

Dallas is kinda built like how most fans would build a team. Flashy WR'ers, big names on Defense who are terrible(relative to their pay) and now Dak's out as are almost all of their starters on the OL.

 

And yeah, they will bring in Pablo Escobar or El Chapo if they think they'll get a few sacks. La'el Collins was wrongly implicated in a double homicide and went from a early 1st round pick to an UDFA and of course he ended up in Dallas with an unprecedented deal for an UDFA. They happened to be right in that case, but I wonder how much they actually vetted him.

I am glad I don't hear the whole "Packer people" nonsense as much anymore since it never really made a ton of sense, but there definitely needs to be a balance. You can give some guys a second chance. Aldon Smith may be worth one for instance. And you can't have 54 choir boys...

 

Anyway, The Pat McAfee show has given me more insight into how the Packers do things than anything over the past 20 or so years. The way Pat's shocked at how dull the Packers really are(no Alcohol on planes, no tramadol before games...which might contribute to Packers players missing more games due to injury)...and just Rodgers and the way he opens up.

 

It's a pretty cool segment every Tues and it's as unbuttoned as I'm guessing anyone who doesn't know Rodgers will see him.

[CheezWizHed]

It is a bit of revisionist history to say "Packer People" means we never gave someone a second chance or that the team was filled with choir boys. I think the bar was a bit lower than that. Normally that just meant that we were avoiding someone that had a history of being a poor teammate or hard to coach. Or someone that had continuous off the field issues. Someone that did something and was trying to make amends wasn't normally the problem (Jolly has three chances?).

 

That and trying to avoid further Lofton/Chmura type scandals.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

The Packers signed a guy that punched his kid's mom in the face. They knew this when they signed him. Packer People meant what it always has. If you're a borderline player your off-field issues matter. If you clearly belong on an NFL roster, then they don't care.