What's bugging you? ~ 2022 ~

[nate82]

1 minute ago, LouisEly said:

It bugs me that there still are license plates and that we're still using that 100-year-old technology.  I think that's something that's ripe for innovation over the next 10 years (considering anything that is completely new today won't be in a vehicle for at least 3-4 years).  Way too easy to steal and way to difficult to read to identify a stolen vehicle.

There are already digital license plates in CA and AZ.  I think TX and another state or two were starting to allow them for commercial vehicles with non commercial vehicles coming later.

[LouisEly]

2 minutes ago, nate82 said:

There are already digital license plates in CA and AZ.  I think TX and another state or two were starting to allow them for commercial vehicles with non commercial vehicles coming later.

Do they have cellular network data connectivity (i.e. 2G/3G) where if they get reported as stolen they get deactivated/flagged/easily identified as stolen?

[nate82]

7 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

Do they have cellular network data connectivity (i.e. 2G/3G) where if they get reported as stolen they get deactivated/flagged/easily identified as stolen?

This is the company that provides the digital license plates: https://reviver.com

I believe they connect through cell towers and Wi-Fi. If no connection it just shows the metal plate.  I believe the plate will show as stolen if you report your car as stolen.  

[LouisEly]

https://reviver.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/rplate_safety.png

Interesting.  Not a fan of this being how they display a stolen vehicle - I would make sure that the word STOLEN is at least as big as the plate number if not bigger. 

[GAME05]

That's really interesting. Wonder if they might end up doing the same warning like "unlicensed owner" if their license gets suspended or something, too. Or with so many more vehicles about to be electric and computerized, if a vehicle is reported as stolen, to entirely disable it from being able to start. Or when people (usually a parent) kidnaps a kid and they know the tag number, to be able to get the GPS of the vehicle to track them.

[nate82]

20 minutes ago, GAME05 said:

That's really interesting. Wonder if they might end up doing the same warning like "unlicensed owner" if their license gets suspended or something, too. Or with so many more vehicles about to be electric and computerized, if a vehicle is reported as stolen, to entirely disable it from being able to start. Or when people (usually a parent) kidnaps a kid and they know the tag number, to be able to get the GPS of the vehicle to track them.

This can be done soon it is that the majority of vehicles just don't have the technology in them.  Right now the average year of a vehicle is 2009-2011.  Which is basically the start of all of the GPS and other advanced options are starting to pop up in vehicles.

Though there is some risk here that you are giving up some freedoms and becoming more of a police state. 

[GAME05]

Yeah it's a weird contradiction in how it would make my own job easier as well as catch a lot more bad guys, while at the same time being a particularly pro-liberty person myself. Granted, without naming the specific incidents, there were a few things that other countries asked their police to do the past couple years which made me think "I would quit my job if I were forced to do that."

[LouisEly]

3 hours ago, GAME05 said:

That's really interesting. Wonder if they might end up doing the same warning like "unlicensed owner" if their license gets suspended or something, too. Or with so many more vehicles about to be electric and computerized, if a vehicle is reported as stolen, to entirely disable it from being able to start. Or when people (usually a parent) kidnaps a kid and they know the tag number, to be able to get the GPS of the vehicle to track them.

It's a private company, so I highly doubt that they would incorporate anything that would incriminate the driver/owner since they are the one paying the $19.95/mo subscription.  They're only going to incorporate things that can identify people who harm the driver.

As for a "police state", the police already have the ability to identify any cell phone that is within 50 feet of a crime scene.  That being said, they have to get an attorney general's waiver in order to access that person's information.  Same w/vehicle GPS - unless the owner gives permission (the state of IL has a program where people can pre-emptively give that permission in the event of a vehicle theft), they have to get an AG waiver to access the GPS location.

[Samurai Bucky]

14 minutes ago, GAME05 said:

Yeah it's a weird contradiction in how it would make my own job easier as well as catch a lot more bad guys, while at the same time being a particularly pro-liberty person myself. Granted, without naming the specific incidents, there were a few things that other countries asked their police to do the past couple years which made me think "I would quit my job if I were forced to do that."

I'm with you here.  However, how many of us have cell phones and we keep location services on (not that it would make any difference).  There is a fine line between liberty and surveillance.  That is a biproduct of the ever evolving digital age.  I'm sure within 50 years, people will have some type of implant placed in their body either voluntary, or involuntary.

We also have Alexa devices in our houses.  They listen to us.  I can be two rooms away and in a regular voice say the word "Alexa" and it will ask me what I want.  Scary.

Ok... I can take off my tin foil hat now... ?

[owbc]

We need to be clear about the distinction between freedoms and privileges. Car driving is a privilege that is often mistaken for a freedom. In addition to the "freedom" to flout traffic rules, harass cyclists and pedestrians, etc. Technology can and should be used to make cars safer.

Anyway...these days you can just hide a $30 air tag in your car. Or your luggage, especially if you are trusting Southwest Airlines to get it to your destination. 

[nate82]

19 minutes ago, owbc said:

We need to be clear about the distinction between freedoms and privileges. Car driving is a privilege that is often mistaken for a freedom. In addition to the "freedom" to flout traffic rules, harass cyclists and pedestrians, etc. Technology can and should be used to make cars safer.

Anyway...these days you can just hide a $30 air tag in your car. Or your luggage, especially if you are trusting Southwest Airlines to get it to your destination. 

It is not the car driving that is a freedom it is the freedom of movement to go where ever you want to go.

 

[Samurai Bucky]

Ok... I did play Grand Theft Auto a few times.  I am really frustrated that I need to see it play out on TV:

https://www.cbs58.com/news/i-43-sb-from-mequon-road-to-brown-deer-road-closed-due-to-law-enforcement-activity

There are other stores where people (mostly young people) steal cars and go for joy rides.  They will often run it out of gas, or get into some type of accident.  I know of at least to people to whom this happened.  Just.... like... GTA.

There are arguments for and against video game influences in people's lives.  Unfortunately, the larger cities have come to emulate what is in the video game.

My sister-in-law delivers for FedEx and goes to Sheboygan to deliver.  Many people in Sheboygan are afraid to go to Milwaukee.  People who live in Milwaukee poo-poo that type of attitude.  I have lived in the Milwaukee area for 30 years... I am getting increasingly nervous.

Hang on... I need to yell at somebody who just walked on my snow-covered lawn.  

[nate82]

3 minutes ago, Samurai Bucky said:

Ok... I did play Grand Theft Auto a few times.  I am really frustrated that I need to see it play out on TV:

https://www.cbs58.com/news/i-43-sb-from-mequon-road-to-brown-deer-road-closed-due-to-law-enforcement-activity

There are other stores where people (mostly young people) steal cars and go for joy rides.  They will often run it out of gas, or get into some type of accident.  I know of at least to people to whom this happened.  Just.... like... GTA.

There are arguments for and against video game influences in people's lives.  Unfortunately, the larger cities have come to emulate what is in the video game.

My sister-in-law delivers for FedEx and goes to Sheboygan to deliver.  Many people in Sheboygan are afraid to go to Milwaukee.  People who live in Milwaukee poo-poo that type of attitude.  I have lived in the Milwaukee area for 30 years... I am getting increasingly nervous.

Hang on... I need to yell at somebody who just walked on my snow-covered lawn.  

There is no link to video games and violence or movies for that matter either.  The problems are from other issues normally with the death of the nuclear family. 

Though car rental companies do not allow for KIA's and other cars to be parked in Milwaukee county. 

https://wtmj.com/news/2022/06/02/kia-boys-documentary-goes-behind-the-scenes-of-milwaukees-car-theft-reckless-driving-crisis/

https://news.yahoo.com/kia-boys-social-media-videos-220715008.html

[owbc]

On 12/28/2022 at 10:32 AM, Samurai Bucky said:

Ok... I did play Grand Theft Auto a few times.  I am really frustrated that I need to see it play out on TV:

https://www.cbs58.com/news/i-43-sb-from-mequon-road-to-brown-deer-road-closed-due-to-law-enforcement-activity

There are other stores where people (mostly young people) steal cars and go for joy rides.  They will often run it out of gas, or get into some type of accident.  I know of at least to people to whom this happened.  Just.... like... GTA.

There are arguments for and against video game influences in people's lives.  Unfortunately, the larger cities have come to emulate what is in the video game.

My sister-in-law delivers for FedEx and goes to Sheboygan to deliver.  Many people in Sheboygan are afraid to go to Milwaukee.  People who live in Milwaukee poo-poo that type of attitude.  I have lived in the Milwaukee area for 30 years... I am getting increasingly nervous.

Hang on... I need to yell at somebody who just walked on my snow-covered lawn.  

LOL. It's the same thing in Seattle. There was a pretty big reddit thread about it, discussing the weird questions about being safe or escaping the violence that people were getting while talking to relatives or visiting people outside of the city. Then it became a big joke in the recent political cycle when some candidates ran advertisements in front of a green screen about the city being lawless. There is definitely a subset of people who live in the city who further encourage it because they want the housing/rent prices to go down, but of course the cities are popular so the prices keep going up. 

Also...c'mon people, it isn't 1995 anymore. Everyone knows that the crime issues are caused by (1) money and (2) fentanyl. I bet every single person on this forum can name an extended family member or friend that had their life ruined by the drug crisis. My family included, so I'm not saying that lightly. Those issues are everywhere. The city just has a higher concentration of potential victims. 

Auto theft in particular has been going on forever. I know someone who had their Subaru stolen at least 4 times. This was back in 2014-15. Every time it was driven around until it ran out of gas and then abandoned. If you have a car that is easy to steal then you have to take precautions.