Twins (Maeda) vs Brewers (Burnes): 8/23/23, 1:10pm

[Brock Beauchamp]

5 minutes ago, ELCABALLO45 said:

I’m not sure why you throw Duran for 2 innings but thank you Rocco. 
 

Also, the Twins bullpen. Woof. 

Duran might have gotten out of that inning if Taylor didn’t hand away a base.

But Duran hasn’t been great lately.

And yes, woof to the Twins pen. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

Aaaaaaaaaand my interest in exit velo dissipates a little more (oh wait, that isn't possible).

Need to hear the idea behind Wiemer hitting rather than Tellez.

Happy for king Elvis. He hasn't been AS good in recent weeks, but I still think he's getting a little bit of a bum rap recently.

[BruisedCrew]

1 minute ago, Brewcrew82 said:

For me, it was just having Wiemer at the plate there. If you pinch hit Tellez, not only do you have someone who's more likely to make contact, but if he rolls over on it like Wiemer did, it would go to the right side to allow the baserunner to advance.

Ended up not mattering, but that was a mistake imo. 

Counsell can explain himself, but once the game was tied he had to think about the defense for the 11th inning. 

I think he planned to use Tellez if they were still behind, but switched once the score was tied.

[willie key]

The angels are just a dog crap organization.     All time dog crap

[Jim French Stepstool]

14 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

If we lose this game, we should look to CC deciding to hit Wiemer there.

Or even now that we won. I'm sure he had a reason. I'd just love to know what it was.

Waiting to hear the hard-hitting grilling from Sophia.

[Brewcrew82]

3 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

Counsell can explain himself, but once the game was tied he had to think about the defense for the 11th inning. 

I think he planned to use Tellez if they were still behind, but switched once the score was tied.

Frelick is unavailable presumably, but he still could've put Anderson in the OF in place of Wiemer once Rowdy batted. 

[ELCABALLO45]

3 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

Duran might have gotten out of that inning if Taylor didn’t hand away a base.

But Duran hasn’t been great lately.

And yes, woof to the Twins pen. 

I just don’t think you throw Duran on a 100 degree day for 2 innings when he has been struggling. But with that being said. Not like the other options were much better to be fair 

[Brewcrew82]

3 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

Aaaaaaaaaand my interest in exit velo dissipates a little more (oh wait, that isn't possible).

Need to hear the idea behind Wiemer hitting rather than Tellez.

Happy for king Elvis. He hasn't been AS good in recent weeks, but I still think he's getting a little bit of a bum rap recently.

He's so much better suited for this type of role than the strict 7th inning role CC had him penciled into. Still getting key outs, too. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

3 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

Counsell can explain himself, but once the game was tied he had to think about the defense for the 11th inning. 

I think he planned to use Tellez if they were still behind, but switched once the score was tied.

I suspect that's it. Logic behind it, but not totally defensible IMO though.

[BruisedCrew]

Just now, willie key said:

The angels are just a dog crap organization.     All time dog crap

True, but it didn’t help them today that Ohtani left the mound in the second inning with an injury after hitting a 2 run HR in the first. 
 

Losing your best pitcher and best hitter in one blow is pretty cruel. 

[Brewcrew82]

5 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

Duran might have gotten out of that inning if Taylor didn’t hand away a base.

But Duran hasn’t been great lately.

And yes, woof to the Twins pen. 

Jax looks legit, though. 97/98 with 3000+ rpms on the breaking ball. 

[BruisedCrew]

Just now, Jim French Stepstool said:

I suspect that's it. Logic behind it, but not totally defensible IMO though.

I’m not saying I agree with it but at least if there is a rationale I can accept the manager’s decision. 

I’m sure he couldn’t care less about the opinions of Internet posters who don’t have to live with the consequences of their decisions. 

[treego14]

Can't beat the heat,

BUT

can get wins against the Twins!

[willie key]

Turang is fast btw

[BruisedCrew]

15 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Frelick is unavailable presumably, but he still could've put Anderson in the OF in place of Wiemer once Rowdy batted. 

Then the bench would have been completely empty with no opportunity to pinch hit later if the situation presented itself.

It’s too bad nobody is likely to ask him that question but I’m confident he had his reasons. Frankly, neither hitter is a great option in that situation.

 

[Brewcrew82]

13 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

Then the bench would have been completely empty with no opportunity to pinch hit later if the situation presented itself.

It’s too bad nobody is likely to ask him that question but I’m confident he had his reasons. Frankly, neither hitter is a great option in that situation.

 

Again, I think Rowdy was a better option because a) he was more likely to make contact and b) if he did end up making contact, the likelihood is that it would have gone to the right side of the field potentially allowing the baserunner to advance.

With Wiemer, there was a very high likelihood of a K or a rollover to the left side, either of which wouldn't advance the baserunner. 

I don't see why Anderson wouldn't have been a capable replacement defensively, with Taylor moving back to CF. That situation seemed to call for "going for the win" imo. 

Thankfully, it didn't matter and you're right that we probably won't ever find out CC's reasoning. 

[csbysam]

I love this team

 

[BruisedCrew]

24 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Again, I think Rowdy was a better option because a) he was more likely to make contact and b) if he did end up making contact, the likelihood is that it would have gone to the right side of the field potentially allowing the baserunner to advance.

With Wiemer, there was a very high likelihood of a K or a rollover to the left side, either of which wouldn't advance the baserunner. 

I don't see why Anderson wouldn't have been a capable replacement defensively, with Taylor moving back to CF. That situation seemed to call for "going for the win" imo. 

Thankfully, it didn't matter and you're right that we probably won't ever find out CC's reasoning. 

You’re assuming that Tellez would have actually had a chance to hit.

Counsell might also have thought that if he put in Tellez they would have walked him intentionally to set up a DP and he would have given up a player for nothing. 

Trailing by a run they would have likely pitched to Tellez instead of putting the winning run on base. 

The fact that he had Tellez on deck pretty clearly indicates that getting the tying run in and getting the winning run on second changed his strategy. 

[TURBO]

1 hour ago, RobertCrawley said:

Does anyone listen to KISS anymore?

My favorite band of all freaking time!  So yes to your question!  lol

(original member band, not the cover band they are using today)

[Brock Beauchamp]

1 hour ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Jax looks legit, though. 97/98 with 3000+ rpms on the breaking ball. 

He’s a wild ride. Looks absolutely dominant for two months then lights himself on fire for a few weeks. 

[treego14]

Time to turn the page,

If we don't win the next one,

don't fly into a rage!

(But I think we will win!)