Giants (Harrison) vs Brewers (Peralta): 8/28/24, 7:10pm

[BruisedCrew]

We’ve just seen the Royals come from 6 games back 2 weeks ago to move into a tie with Cleveland. (They fell a game back with a loss today),

I think it’s fair to say that the Brewers need to keep winning at a respectable pace to guarantee that the race doesn’t get closer than anyone would like it to be. 

[willie key]

1 minute ago, Brian said:

Also Cubs have won 14 of the last 20.

They are playing way better baseball and beating bad teams like they should.   The problem is when they play a good/decent team they still kinda suck.  I’d like to see. Some tougher teams on the schedule for them 

[wiguy94]

1 minute ago, BruisedCrew said:

We’ve just seen the Royals come from 6 games back 2 weeks ago to move into a tie with Cleveland. (They fell a game back with a loss today),

I think it’s fair to say that the Brewers need to keep winning at a respectable pace to guarantee that the race doesn’t get closer than anyone would like it to be. 

Lame comparison considering that happened because of head to head games which the Brewers and Cubs have none remaining 

[Brewcrew82]

32 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

We’ve just seen the Royals come from 6 games back 2 weeks ago to move into a tie with Cleveland. (They fell a game back with a loss today),

I think it’s fair to say that the Brewers need to keep winning at a respectable pace to guarantee that the race doesn’t get closer than anyone would like it to be. 

Well, first of all, the Brewers are already up by more games on the Cubs right now than the Guardians were on the Royals two weeks ago.

Second of all, there's a fundamental difference in quality between between the Royals and Cubs....The Royals already have a dramatically better run differential than the Guardians. One which is actually closer to the Brewers than the Cubs. 

Third of all, the Royals were aided in their comeback by having 4 head to head games this week against the Guardians, winning the first 3 to tie the division. The Cubs have a grand total of 0 matchups with the Brewers remaining and the Brewers hold the tiebreaker over the Cubs unlike the Guardians which gives them an additional game cushion. 

"They have to win games" is a pretty generic statement that everyone agrees with on its face. Of course they do (and they have been). But that doesn't mean we have to be fearful that the lead is going to be down to a few games before we know it like we were assured that the Brewers were going to be passed over for first by the end of the Dodgers series. 

[markedman5]

Right hand heavy lineup 

 

[willie key]

19 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Well, first of all, the Brewers are up by more games on the Cubs right now than the Guardians were on the Royals two weeks ago.

Second of all, there's a fundamental difference in quality between between the Royals and Cubs....The Royals already have a dramatically better run differential than the Guardians. One which is actually closer to the Brewers than the Cubs. 

Third of all, the Royals were aided in their comeback by having 4 head to head games this week against the Guardians, winning the first 3 to tie the division. The Cubs have a grand total of 0 matchups with the Brewers remaining and the Brewers hold the tiebreaker over the Cubs unlike the Guardians which gives them an additional game cushion. 

"They have to win games" is a pretty generic statement that everyone agrees with on its face. Of course they do (and they have been). But that doesn't mean we have to be fearful that the lead is going to be down to a few games before we know it like we were assured that the Brewers were going to be passed over for first by the end of the Dodgers series. 

Honestly.   Who gives a crap if youre fearful or not fearful.    That’s pretty much irrelevant.    The cubs were 11.5 back a week ago.   If we lose tonight then it’s 8.     Teams can easily make up 3-4 games in a week.  That’s definitely not a current pace I’d like to be on

Just win tonight and if we have a lead maybe the relievers can hold it for us 

[Brewcrew82]

9 minutes ago, willie key said:

    The cubs were 11.5 back a week ago.   If we lose tonight then it’s 8.     Teams can easily make up 3-4 games in a week.  That’s definitely not a current pace I’d like to be on

I believe it was you just a page ago who said “current pace doesn’t mean squat”….

98% is 98% and I think we should ground our expectations according to that and not our own fleeting, subjective impressions. It’s hard to be in a better position at the end of August that the Brewers are currently. 

[BruisedCrew]

40 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Well, first of all, the Brewers are already up by more games on the Cubs right now than the Guardians were on the Royals two weeks ago.

Second of all, there's a fundamental difference in quality between between the Royals and Cubs....The Royals already have a dramatically better run differential than the Guardians. One which is actually closer to the Brewers than the Cubs. 

Third of all, the Royals were aided in their comeback by having 4 head to head games this week against the Guardians, winning the first 3 to tie the division. The Cubs have a grand total of 0 matchups with the Brewers remaining and the Brewers hold the tiebreaker over the Cubs unlike the Guardians which gives them an additional game cushion. 

"They have to win games" is a pretty generic statement that everyone agrees with on its face. Of course they do (and they have been). But that doesn't mean we have to be fearful that the lead is going to be down to a few games before we know it like we were assured that the Brewers were going to be passed over for first by the end of the Dodgers series. 

Who said I was “fearful”? I’m just stating facts.

Trying to read minds again?

At least you agree that the Brewers have to win games. That’s all I’m looking for.

[BruisedCrew]

53 minutes ago, willie key said:

They are playing way better baseball and beating bad teams like they should.   The problem is when they play a good/decent team they still kinda suck.  I’d like to see. Some tougher teams on the schedule for them 

After facing the  Nats and Pirates in their next two series the Cubs will be playing the Yankees and Dodgers. 

[wiguy94]

14 minutes ago, willie key said:

Honestly.   Who gives a crap if youre fearful or not fearful.    That’s pretty much irrelevant.    The cubs were 11.5 back a week ago.   If we lose tonight then it’s 8.     Teams can easily make up 3-4 games in a week.  That’s definitely not a current pace I’d like to be on

Just win tonight and if we have a lead maybe the relievers can hold it for us 

Anyone can play games with sample sizes.

You say Cubs have made up 3 games in a week.

i say Cubs have lost ground 1.5 games since the ASB,

[Brewcrew82]

1 minute ago, BruisedCrew said:

Who said I was “fearful”? I’m just stating facts.

Trying to read minds again?

At least you agree that the Brewers have to win games. That’s all I’m looking for.

Well the “facts” that you supposedly were stating was a just super lame comparison as put best by wiguy.

Fearful is certainly a term that comes to mind when people say things like “we’re going to be out of first place by the end of the Dodgers series” or “this is going to be down to 4 games soon”.  lol

[BruisedCrew]

10 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Well the “facts” that you supposedly were stating was a just super lame comparison as put best by wiguy.

Fearful is certainly a term that comes to mind when people say things like “we’re going to be out of first place by the end of the Dodgers series” or “this is going to be down to 4 games soon”.  lol

That wasn’t me. 

I didn’t “supposedly” state facts. I really did state them. 

It wouldn’t be hard to find examples of teams that gained 6 games in the standings in 2 weeks without the benefit of head to head games against the team they were chasing.  I was just citing a recent example that illustrates how quickly things can change. 

If the Brewers lose 13 of 14 like they did in late August and early September of 2014 after leading the division most of the season they would be opening the door for a team to catch them without the playing the Brewers head to head. 
 

 

[willie key]

10 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Anyone can play games with sample sizes.

You say Cubs have made up 3 games in a week.

i say Cubs have lost ground 1.5 games since the ASB,

That’s the whole point.    It’s not inconceivable to lose a bunch of games quickly in the standings.   Heck the brewers aren’t even playing that bad and we lost 3.5 games in the standings

The only sample size that matters right now is we are up 8.5

[Brewcrew82]

14 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

That wasn’t me. 

I didn’t “supposedly” state facts. I really did state them. 

It wouldn’t be hard to find examples of teams that gained 6 games in the standings in 2 weeks without the benefit of head to head games against the team they were chasing.  I was just citing a recent example that illustrates how quickly things can change. 

I'm quite aware it wasn't you who said that, but you were jumping in on an ongoing conversation involving someone who said those things....

What it comes down to is it would be incredibly hard to find teams who have blown leads like the Brewers currently possess (and those teams didn't have extra the benefit of a tiebreaker for first like the Brewers currently hold). At the end of the day 98% is 98%. 

[Brewcrew82]

17 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

 

If the Brewers lose 13 of 14 like they did in late August and early September of 2014 after leading the division most of the season they would be opening the door for a team to catch them without the playing the Brewers head to head. 
 

 

Another super lame comparison. Anything can happen (duh) but that doesn't make it close to probable or something worth entertaining or fretting over. 

[willie key]

1 minute ago, Brewcrew82 said:

I'm quite aware it wasn't you who said that, but you were jumping in on an ongoing conversation involving someone has who said those things....

What it comes down to is it would be incredibly hard to find teams who have blown leads like the Brewers currently possess (and those teams didn't have the benefit of a tiebreaker for first like the Brewers currently hold). 

I still haven’t seen one post on this whole game thread where someone said the brewers are going to blow it or aren’t in a very good position.  
 

come on dude.  You are just finding things to be offended about

[Brewcrew82]

11 minutes ago, willie key said:

I still haven’t seen one post on this whole game thread where someone said the brewers are going to blow it or aren’t in a very good position.  
 

come on dude.  You are just finding things to be offended about

I mean you literally already predicted the Brewers were going to blow it in a different IGT. ie. ("the Dodgers series" remark). 

[willie key]

5 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Another super lame comparison. Anything can happen (duh) but that doesn't make it close to probable or something worth entertaining or fretting over. 

So people were right in saying they better win games or it will be down to 4-5 games soon

This could have ended 20 posts before.   
 

 

[BruisedCrew]

7 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Another super lame comparison. Anything can happen (duh) but that doesn't make it close to probable or something worth entertaining or fretting over. 

Never once did I say that this was probable or that I was fretting over it.

But, when you have seen it before, you really don’t want to see it again and you don’t want to see it getting started.

I never said anything about the Brewers losing the entire lead. I was talking about it getting close enough to make it a little uncomfortable.

 

 

[Devinep]

56 minutes ago, markedman5 said:

Right hand heavy lineup 

 

Seriously, why not use the times when Sanchez starts at a chance to get Contreras some rest by simply DHing Contreras and catching Sanchez ? 

[willie key]

3 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

Never once did I say that this was probable or that I was fretting over it.

But, when you have seen it before, you really don’t want to see it again and you don’t want to see it getting started.

I never said anything about the Brewers losing the entire lead. I was talking about it getting close enough to make it a little uncomfortable.

 

 

I don’t know how hard that is for anyone to understand.     It does feel nice that people care about my fear level about the brewers last month 

like any of that matters.   

[willie key]

3 minutes ago, Devinep said:

Seriously, why not use the times when Sanchez starts at a chance to get Contreras some rest by simply DHing Contreras and catching Sanchez ? 

Doesn’t peralta like Contreras catching ?

[yourout]

2 hours ago, owbc said:

Enjoy! It was so tempting to go today with the nice weather but I had a conflict come up. Hopefully the M's strike out less than 15 times today...

I can see the appeal to living here. 

Tons to see and do. Temperature climate. Compared to Chicago the traffic is not that bad.

Only downside is the cost and the homeless problem.

[yourout]

2 hours ago, wiguy94 said:

Lame comparison considering that happened because of head to head games which the Brewers and Cubs have none remaining 

My only real worry is Council does have a track record o of having his teams play well in September.

[TURBO]

1 hour ago, willie key said:

Honestly.   Who gives a crap if youre fearful or not fearful.    That’s pretty much irrelevant.    The cubs were 11.5 back a week ago.   If we lose tonight then it’s 8.     Teams can easily make up 3-4 games in a week.  That’s definitely not a current pace I’d like to be on

Just win tonight and if we have a lead maybe the relievers can hold it for us 

You are arguing with someone who has to be right, no matter what, he has to be right and will continue proving he's right until you cower in the corner and give him his way.