WIAA Passes NIL for High School Sports

[Samurai Bucky]

I can see it now -- families moving out of Pembine to get a better deal!!!!

 

[Jim French Stepstool]

"..........activities not associated with their school team, school, conference or the WIAA........."

What I wouldn't give for the college NIL rules to be along those same lines. The first time I saw Kaitlin Clark in the State Farm ad, wearing her Iowa uni, I thought "OK, we screwed THIS up royally".

Born too early. My presence as a JV HS catcher HAD to be worth a few Kitt's burgers, at least.🤔

[wildcat83]

Everyone seems to be mad at the WIAA for doing this, but Wisconsin was one of only 6 states without it.  If it did not pass yesterday, the state legislature was going to force it.  The way it is worded it really only applies to elite level athletes getting deals from national corporations.  Small “home town” businesses can not give money to local athletes.  We aren’t going to see 5,000 kids on NIL deals next year, but it allows kids that can get life changing money to pursue it.

[bigred]

This is absolutely asinine.....That is all. 

[Frisbee Slider]

If someone wants to pay a 16 or 17-year-old thousands of dollars or more to promote their business, should that be illegal?

[nate82]

3 hours ago, Frisbee Slider said:

If someone wants to pay a 16 or 17-year-old thousands of dollars or more to promote their business, should that be illegal?

Should it be illegal to hire them to work at said company?

Some high school kids already make some money off of YouTube, TikTok, Snapchat, Instagram and Twitch.  What makes this any different?  I don’t really care about a sanctity of a sport.  So if some kid in HS can make money doing what they are doing I am all for it.  I don’t care if it’s sports, influencing or playing video games.  If you can make money off of it great if not great also.  Age shouldn’t matter either.

People complain that younger generations are not putting in “hard” work.  But when they do old people complain that they are destroying everything and they are lazy and should be doing “hard” work.

[LouisEly]

The issue is that there's a fine line between paying a kid for something and bribing a kid to do something.

And the human brain, specifically the decision-making part of it, isn't fully developed until about age 25.  The younger someone is, the more irrational their decision-making, and the more likely that they'll do things that they wouldn't do if they were older.  That's the primary reason why you need to be 18 to buy smokes, 21 to buy booze.

[bigred]

5 hours ago, nate82 said:

Should it be illegal to hire them to work at said company?

Some high school kids already make some money off of YouTube, TikTok, Snapchat, Instagram and Twitch.  What makes this any different?  I don’t really care about a sanctity of a sport.  So if some kid in HS can make money doing what they are doing I am all for it.  I don’t care if it’s sports, influencing or playing video games.  If you can make money off of it great if not great also.  Age shouldn’t matter either.

People complain that younger generations are not putting in “hard” work.  But when they do old people complain that they are destroying everything and they are lazy and should be doing “hard” work.

YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, etc, are not hard work. High school kids should not be getting NIL $$, period. College kids shouldn't be getting ot either. Look at how NIL has already made college sports a discombobulated mess. 

[nate82]

9 hours ago, bigred said:

YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, etc, are not hard work. High school kids should not be getting NIL $$, period. College kids shouldn't be getting ot either. Look at how NIL has already made college sports a discombobulated mess. 

You obviously have no idea on how much work it takes to create the videos.  It is not a few minutes it is hours upon hours of work.  You spend about 1-4 hours to make a 1 minute video.  High school kids getting NIL money is fine.  I doubt many will get more than they would by working at McDonald’s part time.

[Samurai Bucky]

11 hours ago, nate82 said:

 High school kids getting NIL money is fine.  I doubt many will get more than they would by working at McDonald’s part time.

Don't a number of kids get scholarships to go to schools like Catholic Memorial, Pius, etc.?  Is this any different?

I wouldn't think that the would get paid too much, but you never know when some rich guy wants his kid to do well in some sport and suddenly has a business that needs some representation.

[bigred]

15 hours ago, nate82 said:

You obviously have no idea on how much work it takes to create the videos.  It is not a few minutes it is hours upon hours of work.  You spend about 1-4 hours to make a 1 minute video.  High school kids getting NIL money is fine.  I doubt many will get more than they would by working at McDonald’s part time.

I think you're assumption is wrong. If that's all they would receive, this wouldn't even be a topic. It wouldn't have been voted on by our State "Gov't". 

[bigred]

3 hours ago, Samurai Bucky said:

Don't a number of kids get scholarships to go to schools like Catholic Memorial, Pius, etc.?  Is this any different?

I wouldn't think that the would get paid too much, but you never know when some rich guy wants his kid to do well in some sport and suddenly has a business that needs some representation.

You mean just like how college athletes got scholarships, then demanded more than a free education? The students won't be receiving mere peanuts. 

[nate82]

1 hour ago, bigred said:

I think your assumption is wrong. If that's all they would receive, this wouldn't even be a topic. It wouldn't have been voted on by our State "Gov't". 

Nice strawman argument but still my answer is I don’t care and it still doesn’t matter.  

2 hours ago, bigred said:

You mean just like how college athletes got scholarships, then demanded more than a free education? The students won't be receiving mere peanuts. 

So if you are working and your employer gives you a free breakfast, lunch and dinner and then says oh we are not paying you any more since we give you your meals you would be ok with that?  This is exactly how college athletes were being treated.  The colleges were making millions of dollars off of the athletes while only giving them about 1% of that earnings.  It was literally legalized slavery.  

 

5 hours ago, Samurai Bucky said:

Don't a number of kids get scholarships to go to schools like Catholic Memorial, Pius, etc.?  Is this any different?

I wouldn't think that the would get paid too much, but you never know when some rich guy wants his kid to do well in some sport and suddenly has a business that needs some representation.

Yes and scholarships are basically a wage well sort of it is just that no money is changing hands.  The school is basically just waiving the fee for the person to attend.  It is similar to a bar if it has a cover charge to enter and then waives it for you to enter.  There are still other costs that you will incur if you decide to do anything else in that bar.  The same is true for the school.  Not to mention the school isn’t really losing money as it would just be a write off if it is a private school.  There are enough federal and state programs where they could easily replace that money lost for a few students each year.

I don’t really see a problem here the vast majority won’t get paid all that much.  Bobby from random small town in WI won’t be getting paid $50k a year by Nike.  Majority will only get paid at best $5k which isn’t really all that much in the grand scheme of things.  Yes there will be some who will get more but that isn’t any different than any other job or anything else.

[bigred]

1 hour ago, nate82 said:

Nice strawman argument but still my answer is I don’t care and it still doesn’t matter.  

So if you are working and your employer gives you a free breakfast, lunch and dinner and then says oh we are not paying you any more since we give you your meals you would be ok with that?  This is exactly how college athletes were being treated.  The colleges were making millions of dollars off of the athletes while only giving them about 1% of that earnings.  It was literally legalized slavery.  

 

Yes and scholarships are basically a wage well sort of it is just that no money is changing hands.  The school is basically just waiving the fee for the person to attend.  It is similar to a bar if it has a cover charge to enter and then waives it for you to enter.  There are still other costs that you will incur if you decide to do anything else in that bar.  The same is true for the school.  Not to mention the school isn’t really losing money as it would just be a write off if it is a private school.  There are enough federal and state programs where they could easily replace that money lost for a few students each year.

I don’t really see a problem here the vast majority won’t get paid all that much.  Bobby from random small town in WI won’t be getting paid $50k a year by Nike.  Majority will only get paid at best $5k which isn’t really all that much in the grand scheme of things.  Yes there will be some who will get more but that isn’t any different than any other job or anything else.

I'm not totally against college athletes receiving NIL, but I definitely am with high school students getting it. NIL in college has made college sports basically unbearable. 

[bigred]

5 hours ago, nate82 said:

Nice strawman argument but still my answer is I don’t care and it still doesn’t matter.  

So if you are working and your employer gives you a free breakfast, lunch and dinner and then says oh we are not paying you any more since we give you your meals you would be ok with that?  This is exactly how college athletes were being treated.  The colleges were making millions of dollars off of the athletes while only giving them about 1% of that earnings.  It was literally legalized slavery.  

 

Yes and scholarships are basically a wage well sort of it is just that no money is changing hands.  The school is basically just waiving the fee for the person to attend.  It is similar to a bar if it has a cover charge to enter and then waives it for you to enter.  There are still other costs that you will incur if you decide to do anything else in that bar.  The same is true for the school.  Not to mention the school isn’t really losing money as it would just be a write off if it is a private school.  There are enough federal and state programs where they could easily replace that money lost for a few students each year.

I don’t really see a problem here the vast majority won’t get paid all that much.  Bobby from random small town in WI won’t be getting paid $50k a year by Nike.  Majority will only get paid at best $5k which isn’t really all that much in the grand scheme of things.  Yes there will be some who will get more but that isn’t any different than any other job or anything else.

Their high school kids. What "Name, Image, or Likeness" do any really have? Imo, at the high school level, it's sort of promoting narcissism. Too many nowadays have huge ego's already. This could easily enlarge them even further. You're comparing apples to oranges. High school don’t make millions, or even hundreds of thousands off sports. High school kids aren't being taken advantage of, at all. 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

This isn't going to affect anybody in any real way other than LeBron types. It will keep them from facing consequences six years after somebody finds out they were secretly given a Cadillac. The WI HS state player of the year isn't getting a deal from Harley Davidson. Only the absolute mega stars will see anything substantial.