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I would first attempt to make a big splash for a SS with multiple years of control. 

1. Brewers receive: CJ Abrams 

Nationals receive: Cooper Pratt, Logan Henderson, Luke Adams and Tobias Myers


Nationals likely won’t trade Abrams due to his control and view him as one of the key pieces of the core. However after Woods, Abrams, Gore, House, Crews? And Willits they don’t have much. Gore will probably hit free agency before they are competing again. Open to maybe swap Pratt with Pena.

 

2. Call for Zach Neto. Less likely than Abrams, would have to include Made and Angels for sure are going to attempt to compete even though they shouldn’t. 

3. Brewers receive: Maikel Garcia

Royals receive: Logan Henderson, Tyler Black and Craig Yoho

Royals looking to compete next year and will receive several big league ready pieces. Could swap out Black for Wilkin and then maybe swap out Yoho if that’s the case. 
 

4, Eugenio Suarez bidding war will ensue but most I would give up is: Tobias Myers and Tyler Black. 

Smaller moves:

Danny Coulombe and Willi Castro for Brock Wilkin and Robert Gasser

Ryan O’Hearn for Blake Burke, lotto

 

I wouldn’t trade Quero he will slot in for Contreras in very near future.

 

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34 minutes ago, Scooterfletcher said:

I feel your proposed #1 is too rich and would have to think about the other three .

Ortiz Myers Patrick Boeve.  Maybe it’s a “to each your own” rating of these guys though.   Otherwise, I’d sub CRod in for one of Henderson/Myers with the other two in your package 

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If I was the GM, I'd have a lot more information regarding self scouting.

But the #1 thing I'd be doing would be trying to build around Chourio. The other two professional sports teams  in the state have given you the blue prints of how you DON'T do it. 

The Bucks pressed and now they're stuck in this purgatory with a superstar. Baseball is different. You can constantly make bad trades and there are so many ways to acquire young talent(as the Padres have shown) you can make up for them. 

Meanwhile, the Packers under Thompson were uber conservative. 

The thing is... we all know Baseball is different. In those sports, if you're the best team, you have a MUCH better chance of advancing. In Baseball, we saw a GG OFer watch the ball go under his glove to lose to the future WS champs in the first rd, we've seen Hader twice give up runs in the playoffs in a series deciding game, vs Washington and the Braves. 

We saw the Brewers get SO many men on base and just smoke the ball about a dozen times and hit LDs right at the D-Backs...who of course made a WS run and we were a late inning HR off Jeremy Jeffress, someone who'd given up a BA of like .120 on his splitter AFTER he walked in a run the previous inning(I'll never believe the Dodgers weren't one of the teams cheating that year when they cried foul about the Astros more egregiously cheating). 

 

So...PERSONALLY, while I want to win this year badly... and I think they have a very real chance, I'm really looking at surrounding Chourio with Frelick/Turant atop the order, Made the switch hitter who walks and hits for power batting 2nd, Chourio, the MVP caliber player by this point hitting 3rd, Yelly, Contreras and then Pena, Adams, Pratt, Collins rounding out that lineup. 

 

The way our farm system looks, we have 2-3 players at every position, so even with the normal rate of guys who don't develop, the GOAL should be to get to a point where you don't have a whole in your lineup and you don't need to get into a bidding war for a 2 month rental.  

 

So the bottom line is what are the chances we're trading a guy like Fernando Tatis Jr for a James Shields to try and give ourselves a 2% better chance of winning? Is if 5% better?

What are the odd that Made, Pena, Adamczewski, Dinges, Quero, Pratt, Wilken, Adams become star players?

 

It may be a cop-out, and I know this ideology pisses off many Brewers fans to no end, but if I think Adamczewski can be a .300 hitter, play CF/2B maybe some 3B and SS and be a super utility player while putting up several ~4 WAR seasons, I'm probably not doing it. If I think Collins is the type of player he'll develop into(but at an earlier age) I'm not pulling the trigger.

If I think Fischer is really the best bat in this draft, I'm much more inclined to trade Burke, Adams or Wilken. 

 

So knowing what I don't know, the top tier players I'm willing to trade are;

Wilken, Patrick, Myers, Areinamo, players on that teir for a rental. 

For someone with team control for 2+years(so say the Twins, I want to add Castro and Durhan and then you can always flip him) I'd go up to Henderson+Wilken+Yoho and probably dig a little deeper if you can get Durhan or Bautista from Minnesota/Baltimore. Castro is not a huge upgrade to me, his defense isn't good, but O'Hearns is a bigger one. So you'd addjust accordingly. It's not even a given Duran or Bautista are available.  

 

And I'm sure people will disagree, but I think the more likely and best avenue to really improving this team for a playoff run is another just dominant reliever. One you can use like we used Hader back in the day. Bring them in at any time of the game. Or just copy the Royals and have those three overpowering trio at the end of the game. 

 

Finally, I'd be open to trading Quintana. I don't think you're getting back alot, but if you can get a couple prospects that you can then throw into a trade, I'm more than happy to swap out Cortes for Quintana. 

Cortes should be ready soon as he just threw 93 pitches tonight. 

 

I know, a lot verbose and a bit vague, but I just don't think there are a lot of great fits and if we're going to and give up a top 100 prospect, I think a dominant reliever who can overpower guys is at least as valuable.

Keep shortening the games, try and get a bat who can help vs RHPing and I think we're right in the race without giving up Pratt or Quero. 

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To me this would be like getting Ryan O’Hearn but with a better track record and ability to play 2B: I’d go after Brandon Lowe from TB. LHB at 1B/DH and occasional 2B. 

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1. Trade for Suarez

2. Unload Hoskins to a team that needs a 1b. ( Win-Win trade for both)

3. Trade for Taj Bradley - Rumored to be available - Controllable through 2029 - Let the Brewers work their Magic. 

 

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I doubt either scenario plays out, but it would give me a slight pause…

O’Hearn eligible for a comp pick?

Logan Henderson eligible for PPI pick?

If both are a yes, a trade of Myers for O’Hearn wouldn’t be too bad?

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3 minutes ago, snoogans8056 said:

I doubt either scenario plays out, but it would give me a slight pause…

O’Hearn eligible for a comp pick?

Logan Henderson eligible for PPI pick?

If both are a yes, a trade of Myers for O’Hearn wouldn’t be too bad?

No comp picks for players traded during the season 

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How is Pratt progressing this year? What is his realistic upside? I would not want to include him in any trade unless brewers feel his ceiling is limited. 

If I am being honest, I might toss out a couple guys in the 11-15 range but not much else. I think the team can compete as they are currently constituted. Dont underestimate the defensive value the current players have.

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15 minutes ago, JackNicholson1974 said:

How is Pratt progressing this year? What is his realistic upside? I would not want to include him in any trade unless brewers feel his ceiling is limited. 

If I am being honest, I might toss out a couple guys in the 11-15 range but not much else. I think the team can compete as they are currently constituted. Dont underestimate the defensive value the current players have.

Pratt has a 108 wRC+ as one of the youngest players in the Southern League. The Brewers director of player development did an interview where he said they view Pratt is a future all star.

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