Brewers (Gasser) vs Athletics (Ginn): 6/9/26, 9:05pm

[adambr2]

Truly one of the most pathetic offensive performances of the season. And they scored 5 runs. 

[liveforoctober]

Not even midnight. I can get a normal sleep in.

This was the game to kick if you had to. Need Sproat to keep the ball in the yard tomorrow and our bullpen should be ok to bring it home. 

Just win the series and get back to Wisconsin.

Goodnight all.

[wiguy94]

Really bad offensive performance today. One of the worst of the year frankly.

[Bulldogboy]

Disappointing night. Can't win them all but pitching did what was needed. The bottom of the order compared to the opposition is the difference. It needs to be fixed.

[adambr2]

6 minutes ago, liveforoctober said:

Not even midnight. I can get a normal sleep in.

This was the game to kick if you had to. Need Sproat to keep the ball in the yard tomorrow and our bullpen should be ok to bring it home

Yeah, I mean he can’t do that in normal, actual MLB stadiums but I’m sure it’ll be no problem for him here. 

[greenlawler]

gonna be honest, the fact that Vaughn or Sanchez did not start tonight makes me wonder if Murph actually knows what he is doing.

I mean seriously? Short porch you sit your sluggers?

What is more disappointing is the confidence he has in the back half of our lineup. Murphey is okay with Perkins, Renfigo, Mitchell, Ortiz.....there is no way we ever go any where with those 5-9

[Brewcrew82]

3 minutes ago, greenlawler said:

gonna be honest, the fact that Vaughn or Sanchez did not start tonight makes me wonder if Murph actually knows what he is doing.

I mean seriously. Short porch you sit your sluggers?

What is more disappointing is the confidence he has in the back half of our lineup. 

Sanchez stinks against RHP....

Vaughn isn't that great against RHP either for that matter. 

Other than Chourio's HR in the 1st, your sluggers simply didn't get the job done. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

In environments like this I'm sure it's real easy to get swing-happy & lose your plate discipline. Overall Oak-Sac-LV didn't fall into that trap too much, but I thought we did & that helped make the difference. Too many chases. I can't believe Kurtz---to be that young, that powerful & have that great a feel for what's a strike and what's not is pretty amazing.

Other than that, eh. There's no way Gasser gives up six runs except for the fact he was pitching in a little kids' bouncy house. I thought his poise was pretty good considering. Kuhnel made a way-to-good 0-2 pitch for the HR. And Crow gave 'em a chance to get back in. We survived.

You could argue that once Frelick struck out in the 8th, you leave Rengifo in to hit. Then Vaughn hits for Hamilton, either with a man on or leading off the 9th.

[greenlawler]

1 minute ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Sanchez stinks against RHP....

Vaughn isn't that great against RHP either for that matter. 

Other than Chourio's HR in the 1st, your sluggers simply didn't get the job done. 

Vaughn is better against right handers than half our lineup. 

[adambr2]

Just now, Brewcrew82 said:

Sanchez stinks against RHP....

Vaughn isn't that great against RHP either for that matter. 

Other than Chourio's HR in the 1st, your sluggers simply didn't get the job done. 

I’m okay with no Sanchez, because I can’t see benching Contreras or Yelich tonight, but I can’t excuse Vaughn.

You have to consider more than just the splits. There’s a good chance that Vaughn runs into one tonight if given 5 opportunities. You have to consider the environment.

You’re either elevating balls here or you’re losing. You’re not winning in this stadium with small ball. 

[wiguy94]

1 minute ago, greenlawler said:

Vaughn is better against right handers than half our lineup. 

Vaughn's 80 wRC+ against RHP is 10th on the active roster only ahead of Rengifo, Ortiz, and Perkins

[greenlawler]

1 minute ago, wiguy94 said:

Vaughn's 80 wRC+ against RHP is 10th on the active roster only ahead of Rengifo, Ortiz, and Perkins

.Oh no I guess he not as good as 30%. of our starter's.  guess it's not worth starting a power hitter in a short porch lol.....

[wiguy94]

Just now, greenlawler said:

Against three of our starters......Oh no I guess he not as good as 40%. I guess it's not worth starting a power hitter in a short porch lol.....

Only one of those players started tonight and he did so at 3B. Andrew Vaughn can't play 3B

[Brewcrew82]

5 minutes ago, greenlawler said:

Vaughn is better against right handers than half our lineup. 

In terms of who was in the lineup tonight, he's only better than Rengifo against RHP....

[greenlawler]

Just now, wiguy94 said:

Only one of those players started tonight and he did so at 3B. Andrew Vaughn can't play 3B

Dude stop. We all know Vaughn should have started tonight. Don't be "that guy"

 

[Brewcrew82]

7 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

I’m okay with no Sanchez, because I can’t see benching Contreras or Yelich tonight, but I can’t excuse Vaughn.

You have to consider more than just the splits. There’s a good chance that Vaughn runs into one tonight if given 5 opportunities. You have to consider the environment.

You’re either elevating balls here or you’re losing. You’re not winning in this stadium with small ball. 

Except Vaughn isn't exactly barreling the baseball right now regardless of splits. His bat speed and power remains down because of the hammate....

He's playing more like Luis Arraez right now. Which is working well for him, especially against LHP. But doubt he would've made the difference tonight in terms of power output. 

[adambr2]

1 minute ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Except Vaughn isn't exactly barreling the baseball right now regardless of splits. His bat speed and power remains down because of the hammate....

Damn, can’t wait til his bat speed and power comes around so he can improve on that pitiful .551 slugging percentage.

[adambr2]

8 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Only one of those players started tonight and he did so at 3B. Andrew Vaughn can't play 3B

He actually can, he has played 10 innings there with the White Sox at the MLB level.

It might be Ryan Braun 2007 esque but I guess until they call up some better alternatives I’m game for trying anything that keeps Luis Rengifo off the field and out of the lineup.

[greenlawler]

7 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Except Vaughn isn't exactly barreling the baseball right now regardless of splits. His bat speed and power remains down because of the hammate....

He's playing more like Luis Arraez right now. Which is working well for him, especially against LHP. But doubt he would've made the difference tonight in terms of power output. 

You cannot be serious. Are you watching this team? 

[Brewcrew82]

11 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

Damn, can’t wait til his bat speed and power comes around so he can improve on that pitiful .551 slugging percentage.

lol Come on you know better than that....

You know as well as I that his SLG % is that high because he's batting .360 with a .390 BABIP. His xSLG is .419 and his barrel % is by far a career low 3.8%. 

Like I said, he's playing more like Luis Arraez right now. Which goes to show how talented of a hitter he is to be able to adjust to diminished bat speed. But to act like his absence from the lineup was any sort of a decisive factor in terms of power output is just missing the bigger picture. 

[wiguy94]

3 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

He actually can, he has played 10 innings there with the White Sox at the MLB level.

It might be Ryan Braun 2007 esque but I guess until they call up some better alternatives I’m game for trying anything that keeps Luis Rengifo off the field and out of the lineup.

It's just not going to happen. Vaughn is not going to play anywhere other there 1B and DH because that's all the he can play. Him playing 10 innings at 3B half a decade ago just doesn't matter at all.

[Brewcrew82]

5 minutes ago, greenlawler said:

You cannot be serious. Are you watching this team? 

Yes I am. Are you? I mean you're the one that wants Gary Sanchez in the lineup against a right handed starter, which would make me question that.  

[adambr2]

Just now, wiguy94 said:

It's just not going to happen. Vaughn is not going to play anywhere other there 1B and DH because that's all the he can play.

I mean I am only half serious but if Vaughn had started at 3B tonight for one singular game to get his bat in the game in this environment the Brewers would have gotten through the game and life would have went on. 

I still remember when Travis Shaw moving to second seemed like a bad joke.

[wiguy94]

1 minute ago, adambr2 said:

I mean I am only half serious but if Vaughn had started at 3B tonight for one singular game to get his bat in the game in this environment the Brewers would have gotten through the game and life would have went on. 

I still remember when Travis Shaw moving to second seemed like a bad joke.

The only reason that happened was because the super shift was still a thing and 2B didn't need to have any range. Shaw would have never moved to 2B if the shift ban was a thing.

[adambr2]

1 minute ago, wiguy94 said:

The only reason that happened was because the super shift was still a thing and 2B didn't need to have any range. Shaw would have never moved to 2B if the shift ban was a thing.

That’s true, but it’s also a lot more extreme than moving Vaughn to 3B for one game where the range required isn’t nearly the same as the middle infield spots.