09/15/05 Brewers (Ohka) @ Diamondbacks (Estes) 5:10 CST

[rluzinski]

He has a lot to overcome before I will consider him a key component of the Milwaukee future. He is not in the league of Weeks, Fielder or Hardy.

 

And you think you are in the minority for thinking that? I think most realize that he has maybe a 50% chance of being a mlb starter.

[Southwest Brewer]

For those of you who listen on XM, why do some teams get a pregame and postgame and some don't (Brewers for example)?

[AJAY]

BREWERS WHOOP SOME BUTT !!

 

Santos still stinks.

 

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[strawbossisevil]

.500

...for now...

[Member]

Dunno... not listening to the game, actually.

 

I put away the radios when the power came back on.

 

Nice that they pulled away early... but GOD that just looked like a bad ninth for Victor.

[scoop53714]

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And you think you are in the minority for thinking that? I think most realize that he has maybe a 50% chance of being a mlb starter

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Now I have to be in the minority to voice my opinion? Ok boss.

[hawing]

Well, with 73 wins...they can't lose 90 this year!

[PietroSanGiacomo]

And this is the latest the Brewers have been at .500 SINCE...

 

1992.

 

Hawing, I prefer to look at it as "9 wins until 82," but that's just me. Your benchmark is an accomplishment as well.

 

Time to actually break through to ABOVE .500 tomorrow.

[Brian the Automator]

[ Now I have to be in the minority to voice my opinion? Ok boss. ]

 

Speaking of being in the minority, turn your inbox on.

 

IT'S THE LAW.

 

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[mikerollins]

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Bill Hall OPS at .808. Why is everyone in such a tizzy about 3b in '06 again?

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Probably because a few people keep suggesting it will be Branyan playing 3B next year, which would cause a big tizzy.

 

Obviously if it is Hall/Cirillo...most people's fears would be eased.

[Brian the Automator]

[ Bill Hall OPS at .808. Why is everyone in such a tizzy about 3b in '06 again? ]

 

...because his OPS was .650 the year before.

 

Don't get me wrong, I want Bill Hall to be on the team next year. I just want him hitting against lefties, where he has an .864 OPS.

 

He's a nice little player, with a lot of versatility. I don't think he's as bad as 2004, and I don't think he's as good as 2005. If I had to guess, i'd put him at a .775 OPS next year. As long as Branyan can be healthy, I like the Hall/Branyan platoon with perhaps Hall getting some additional AB's against righties when he's hot.

[scoop53714]

why does age and progression seem to apply to every player other than bill hall?

[hawing]

I prefer to look at it as "9 wins until 82," but that's just me.

 

I understand. I'll gleefully change my tagline to "One win to 82" after win 81, whenever it comes. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

[scoop53714]

that "good little player" ranks 6th in MLB among thirdbasemen in OPS.

[wisportswriter]

Reunited with .500 ... and it feels so good.

[Brian the Automator]

[ why does age and progression seem to apply to every player other than bill hall? ]

 

2003: .756 OPS

2004: .650 OPS

2005: .808 OPS

 

That's a good question.

[davego]

+.500 and ahead of the Cubs? I'll cash out and call that a nice season.

[scoop53714]

Hall should change his name to something cool like Carlos Beltran so people would forgive his numbers from when he was in his early 20's and look to the future to see how good he could be at ages 26-30.

[Brian the Automator]

[ that "good little player" ranks 6th in MLB among thirdbasemen in OPS. ]

 

That's correct. That's how Hall's OPS currently ranks this year.

 

It was my contention in my earlier post that I don't think Hall's going to post an .808 OPS next year. It's also true that Branyan has a .850 OPS this year. Further than that, it's true that Hall performs better against lefties and Branyan wails on righties.

[scoop53714]

speaking of Beltran his early 20's look an awful lot like hall.

 

at 22 he OPS'd at .791

dipped to .675 at 23

and popped up to 807 at age 24.

 

Same pattern hall has displayed at ages 23, 24 and 25.

[Brian the Automator]

[ Hall should change his name to something cool like Carlos Beltran so people would forgive his numbers from when he was in his early 20's and look to the future to see how good he could be at ages 26-30. ]

 

Did Carlos Beltran run over your dog?

[scoop53714]

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It was my contention in my earlier post that I don't think Hall's going to post an .808 OPS next year.

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I agree. That would be a statistical miracle. .808 in back to back seasons? The odds are against it.

[Brian the Automator]

[ I agree. That would be a statistical miracle. .808 in back to back seasons? The odds are against it. ]

 

Are you really like this, when you're talking to people face to face? Or is this just some act you do on the internet?

[scoop53714]

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Did Carlos Beltran run over your dog?

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No. He sort of grazed it. The resulting wound developed an infection though. It was allergic to the medication and slipped into a coma. It only responded to the swooshing BONG! sound on "A Current Affair" and I hate that show. Obviously you can see why I hate Beltran now.

[SoCalBrewfan]

If Hart turns out to be a nobody, scoop will say I told you so.

 

If Hart turns out to be a good player, scoop will say he fixed the problems scoop identified, soon after scoop pointed them out.

 

He is not in the league of Weeks, Fielder or Hardy.

 

Who's claiming he is? Very few prospects are...that doesn't mean he's not a good prospect. Some prospects don't work out...but Hart has succeeded in the high minors and that's almost always a good indicator of someone who will have a notable major league career.