FVBrewerFan

Don't see the problem with the current list of starters going any shorter in games than most teams 4/5. And with an 8 man pen even less of a problem. Not to mention they'll have 2 or 3 guys in the pen who can go more than one inning. All that said, I think many of you are under-estimating how many innings Suter can eat.

Two things come to mind. 1) Brewers were 26th in RISP 2) Players on the bases a lot were, well, slow. Shaw, Santana, Pina, Thames, Aguilar, even Braun. What do you do? The RISP often changes year to year on its own. But Yelich and Cain will help with both.

I doubt Arrietta will be worth $25MM This year, much less 3 years from now. We'll see. I agree Cobb still makes sense if the years/ dollars are right. He's the only one out of the 3 that made sense to me all along. Next years FA class likely to be very deep. Something tells me Stearns probably knows this too.

They've both been in MLB long enough that numbers in minors don't mean anything. In fact, their first 2-3 years in MLB don't mean whole lot. Look at the last three years OBP. Moustakas: .321 Hosmer: .359 That's almost a 40 point spread in OBP, huge. And apparently teams are all over OBP and discount slugging more than ever. That said, yea, still seems like way too big of a gap between those two players.

Yes, that way our nonsense posts (like this one) and bickering can relocate to the IGT. Stop me if you heard this before, but I expect one of these guys to sign today. It's Friday, getting into middle of ST. I expect to get a notification on my phone right around beer o'clock that someone signed.

Now that I realize we're talking about ALEX Cobb and not RANDALL Cobb, the last 57 pages make a little more sense.

Yea, I think the dollars were at market for Cain, the only question really was the extra year.

After what we've seen lately, I really think it's all about years for these remaining pitchers, including Cobb. My guess is he's looking for at least 4 years, and nobody is offering more than 3. It should be clear to these guys and their agent that's not going to change.

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As has been alluded to time and time again, there is really no need to bash, however veiled you think it may be. I really don't think it's bashing, just playful banter. No different than the ribbing another poster got over the years for promoting a certain lefty pitcher he liked. Plus, you can expect to get some ribbing when you quit, come back, quit, come back, go to twitter, quit, repeat. I mean, come in and offer what you have to offer, or don't. But all the back and forth drama and demanding everyone agree was/is a bit much.

You get Cobb plus a jet ski and a beautiful set of luggage.

Chacin will look like an overpay as well when the remaining FA pitchers sign. Just the way it goes, nobody knew it would play out like this.

Two shows I watched from the beginning, so I'm stuck with: Walking Dead- I have it on, but end up doing stuff on my phone more than watching intently. Gold Rush Weekly: Shark Tank The Middle/ Modern Family Shows I binge: Sneaky Pete- Good call by Brew4U. Loved it and looking forward to 2nd season about to drop House of Cards- We'll see what happens post-Spacey The Americans Like it better than I thought I would Homeland Better Call Saul Breaking Bad is just barely better than BCS Bosch Fargo Narcos Goliath (Billy Bob Thorton) On my list to binge when I get Netflix again: Stranger Things

That's how GMs used to think, not anymore. Sounds obvious, but all they care about now is what they can expect to get out of a player the next year, three years, etc. And last season plays into that as much or more than anything else. Then you look at age, do they see an obvious adjustment that can be made, etc. But the days of paying a player for past performance is over.

This is what has me confused. It's the same logo on their hats, etc. for many, many years. To me, that means primary. Reading the other posts, I guess they were using some other logo in various graphics, etc. but I never even noticed any of that.

The Princess Bride came out in 1987. When I saw you didn't get the reference, I had assumed to you too young for that movie to have entered your pop culture repertoire. Nope, actually graduated HS in 1984, so I'm a child of the 80s. Just somehow have never seen that movie.

Professional baseball players are just people. (I know, pretty deep ha?) Meaning they're all different. I'm sure some love every moment of the experience, and take it all in and appreciate it. Others may not want anything to do with the fans, or even other players. Not necessarily because they're jerks, they just may be more reserved. One thing I do know for a fact. And this isn't something some guy on tweeter or facespace said, it was a conversation I had with a former player. He said after the season you have all sorts of affairs to get in order, then go on vacation, then come the holidays. Besides all that, some guys play fall or winter ball. He said you finally sort of settle in with your family and boom it's time for camp again. So I don't think players in general either love or hate ST, it's some of both. As for the FA pitchers out there, they're just giving their agent 100% of the decision making authority. Is that smart? Maybe/ maybe not, but that's what they're paying them for. I highly doubt they're doing it just to miss camp, by the same token the desire to be at ST with players, fans etc. isn't that big of a deal when millions is at stake.

It's like the whole 7th/8th/closer thing. I'm a little skeptical that they need that level of routine to be effective. If anything, I think they'd be a lot better off if their appearances depended on match-ups and rest rather than innings. If you have 3 save situations in a row, why go to your closer for each one? Why stick with your 7th-inning guy even if he's an LHP facing 3 dominant RHB's in the 7th? Roenicke was a player's manager who did that stuff all the time. Remember the Kameron Loe in the 7th era? Remember when K-Rod was dominant before the ASB in 2014 but was pitching nearly every other day and once tried to save a game 4 days in a row? It's* mind-numbingly stupid for relievers IMO, but I think it's questionable for starters too. Yea, and I think that's an area where the Brewers are already a little flexible with, and hopefully we'll see more of it this year. For example, if Hader rolls through the 8th, why not let him finish the game at times. Depends on his workload in recent days, as well as Knebel. Also depends on LH or RH dominated line-up in the 9th, etc. But there should be times this makes perfect sense. Another example, you may have a game where Williams can pitch the 7th/8th instead of using the set-up man every time the book says you should. Like I said, just based ona couple things I saw last year, a few comments I've heard from CC and DS, I think they're open to some of these things. We'll soon find out!

Yea, except the time to do that would have been now. If he goes another year and proves he can't make contact, what is he worth? Not much of a market for OFs that can't hit. They would be better off holding on to him hoping he figures it out eventually. Too bad, because with that cannon and overall defensive skills he would be so perfect in RF or any field. And I think he would be a good clubhouse guy too, for whatever that's worth.

Routine is always the biggest issue for SP. They do certain things each day between starts, and that has an effect both mentally and physically. If they're not sure when they'll start, or it constantly changes, that could be an issue. Part of the problem would be if a pitcher has a bad performance. Is it because his schedule was messed with? That's impossible to prove, putting the manager in a tough position. Plus, the Brewers aren't likely to even have any LH starters to even try this experiment.

You just said it earlier, find the right coach. There is plenty of talent on this team, but they need a coach who can pound in to them how they need to play. I don't care if this coach is young or old. Experienced or not. "Players" coach or hard ass. Whoever it is needs to pound home intensity on defense and move the ball on offense. It's the NBA, everybody wants their "x" number of shots per game and they're never going to reach the next level that way. The other day Snell hit three triples in the first half, I'm not sure if he even had a shot after that. There are games when Parker is red hot, and they don't feed him. You just can't have Giannis and Middleton in iso constantly. I do think they can be a much better team with these same players. Heck, they've shown that in stretches this year. Egos and stats just need to be set aside, if that's even possible.

Thumbs up. Some of you think like agents, "Brewers are in win now. Let's fleece em" is the agent thought process. The best way to counter that thought process is to make them wait. Crew has shown their interest. No agent is going to make a deal without at least contacting the Brewers at the last minute. Every day these teams make a player wait it benefits the team not the player. Also look closer, Cobb, Lynn and Arrieta all maybe the best out there but their still not the cream. Brewers are playing a wait and see approach with their current starters. Injuries, effectiveness and a players willingness to take less will determine the Brewers acquisitions. It's dynamic with many moving parts. Stearns does not make irrational and emotional decisions. However, He will buy when the price is right. Be patient. This. My feeling is the Brewers are interested at their price. If none of these guys are in that price range, you move on. I would guarantee Stearns is examining every avenue for starting pitching, including free agency and multiple trade candidates. I'd love to see them grab someone before the start of the season, but it's also important to establish rotation depth right now, which is exactly what they are doing with Miley, Guerra, Gallardo and the cast of other characters they are auditioning for rotation spots. Who knows ... maybe there is another Anderson in that group. Then once they have a firmer handle on the rotation depth, they can strike on a free agent move to firm up the rotation. It's frustrating to wait, but at this point it is what it is. I'm more worried about the positional logjam, but there's still 3 weeks of spring training, which means there's still time to sort that out. On a side note, glad you're back, man! Stick around for awhile and talk some ball. March is the time for optimism. "Every day these teams make a player wait it benefits the team not the player" is NOT necessarily true. If it was, agents aren't stupid they would have had their players sign by now. It works both ways. Injuries could drive the price up.

Thanks Mr. Allen, I'm not familiar with that reference. Now I feel old.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Sorry, can't get past this. What do you think this word means? Seems like he's using the word in proper context.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Why? Seems like he's using the word exactly as he intends.