You seem to think that Suppan is above replacement level, or maybe even above average. You're probably the only one who feels that way, and that's why people are arguing with you. I'd bet that 90% of this forum feel that Suppan is below replacement level - by definition, that means that any AAA scrub will be better. So based on everyone else's opinion of Suppan, even though nobody has "proven" themselves to be better (only due to not having had a chance, nothing else), there are a ton of guys who most likely are. No, I know Suppan has been below replacement level. Replacement level is pretty arbitrary though and it ignores the fact that some pitchers get hit harder than others.(I believe it is FIP based and all FIP looks at is HR, BB and K) Even if Suppan was the worst pitcher according to WAR that doesn't mean that anybody would be better. Parra had a better WAR but I wouldn't say he pitched better last year than Suppan. If he did, it was by a very small amount, not the 1.3 wins WAR says which would have been closer to 2 wins if both had pitched close to a full season. WAR in and of itself is a terrible argument. In theory if a player below replacement level we should be able to bring in any AAA and get better results. Reality doesn't bear that out though. In my opinion WAR for pitchers needs to be more results based and a rate stat if you want to use it to compare 2 players. We don't to use luck neutral stats for hitters. I would use FIP if I wanted to look at future potential, but not much else. Parra, for example, is the type of pitcher who has through his MLB always had a lower FIP than ERA because he gets hit harder than the average pitcher. If he can stop throwing easy to hit pitches he has the potential to be much better. Every year it's the same empty argument against prospects... well they haven't proven anything yet so how can we count on them? How exactly do they get a chance to prove themselves if they are never given a shot? Do something at AA or above. Give them half a season to show what they can do at AA or above, if they are pitching well halfway through the season, cut Suppan.