I guess when I think of the 07 and 08 Giants, I think of them signing old guys to be the core of their team (I don't know if that is an accurate assessment or not). Of the guys you listed, I don't think the Brewers are counting on any of them to be a core players, with perhaps the exception being Randy Wolf. Off of the top of my head, four of the nine players you mentioned are on minor league contracts with invites to Spring Training (Schoenweiss, Halama, Edmonds & Treanor). Really no harm in that at all. If they do well, great. If they stink, no big loss. Counsell and perhaps Inglett are expected to be bench/role players, not everyday players. Doug Davis is expected to stabilize the what was the worst rotation in baseball last year, not anchor it. The only one who seems to be heavily counted on is Gregg Zaun, and he is a guy who can't possibly be worse than Jason Kendall. And who knows what Salome/LuCroy will show this spring. I see what your saying JBriggs, but I don't think that the Giants situation is an apples to apples comparison. I admittedly don't follow the Giants, but like I said, it seemed to me that they were signing old guys with the idea that they would be main cogs in their lineup/pitching staff, whereas it doesn't seem to be quite that way for the Brewers. EDIT: I see you added Hawkins and Hoffman to your original post. Again, I see what you're saying, but Hawkins has pitched pretty well the last couple of years, and Hoffman is still an effective closer. Neither of those two have shown to be on a major downslide in their careers that we should be that worried about their age.