The talent is insufficient and the pitching staff is no where near as good as the 08' team even with Suppan in the rotation. People forget that Sheets was the best pitcher in the NL for the first half of the year and Parra actually was rather good in the first half of the year. Right now there are three Dave Bush's on the team and not a single Sheets so your W/L expectancy is going to go down. I don't think this team was going to be this bad but they were a .500 team at best to begin the season and leaning more towards a team that would finish below .500. How far below .500 is debatable as a lot of things can happen between the start of the season and the end of the season. A team can go very cold in the beginning of the year and then warm up for a month or two. This team right now doesn't have the pitching it had in 08' and it is not even close. This is where there is a huge discrepancy of talent between the two teams the pitching is bad in the rotation and it is killing the bullpen. The bullpen maybe better than what the Brewers had in 08' but it is absolutely getting killed by its starting pitchers who on a normal basis can barely make it out of the 5th inning everyday. The Brewers bullpen has already thrown a total of 173.2 IP so far this year!!!!! only the Astros, Blue Jays, Twins, Pirates, and Rockies have thrown more innings than the Brewers bullpen. Only the Pirates and the Rockies have a winning record of those 5 other teams. There is not much an offense can do when your pitching fails to go longer than 6 innings on a consistent basis. If your starters are only going about 6 innings every game that means you are putting out your worst relief pitcher more than you should be. The manager is not the problem it is the roster construction that is the problem. MA made a mistake and went with Lohse this off season and thought he would put the team over the top or make them more competitive. Lohse is not that kind of a pitcher to be leaning on to do that as he is not an ace nor is he a #1 or #2 type pitcher. He is not going to carry a team to victory by averaging 7+ innings every start and keeping the team in the game. Lohse is not a Sabathia, Sheets, or even a Greinke type of a pitcher and this is what this team is missing. Without a pitcher like that you are looking at a best possible outcome of a .500 team maybe a little bit over if everything goes right. Now everything is not going right for the Brewers and this is the scenario where if everything does not go right for the Brewers they are a sub .500 team and you are looking at a team that is probably in the discussion of being in the bottom 10 of the league. The offense is great but the pitching is not and your offense is only going to take you so far. I believe Roenicke is actually perfect for this team that has been constructed and going forward Roenicke is the answer as he is a perfect manager for younger players as he manages to their strengths. You need a manager who has an aggressive approach for younger players as they play more aggressive. Roenicke would be a bad manager if you want to keep on doing what the Brewers have been doing and that is adding more and more veteran players.