Didn't they originally say she got it from their nanny but now it's a friend? This is why anecdotes are so unreliable. It's impossible to know what really occurred. Imagine if you will a world where a couple's nanny is also their friend....[sarcasm]in the Twilight zone[/sarcasm]. They didn't suddenly change their story. His wife was out of town with their nanny and some other friends for the weekend. The studies are helpfully summarized here. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html Notably, you will often see non-absolute language like "should reduce" or "make it rare to spread" in preliminary studies. Average peer review for a large study in a major journal is 2 years (and that's after all the data is collected, analyzed, and written up (a process that routinely takes over 5 years for these types of studies)), so expecting to see fully fleshed out, definitive studies on anything COVID related at this point is not realistic. Every study you've read to date would be considered preliminary As pointed out several times in this thread, all data to date show an ~90% reduction in infections in vaccinated individuals (for the two mRNA vaccines). Would you agree that a if a person is not infected they are not going to spread disease? Thus, even with this very simple analysis, it is safe to say that vaccinated people are at least 90% less likely to spread disease? Thanks for the link and the clarification for the studies. I figured if they can say it was 90% effective (on data less than 2 years old) that they could have actual data on its spread by vaccinated people (even prelim data) by now, but I guess not. It would be helpful if they did. We are agreed that vaccinated people are X% (whatever the particular vaccine they used) less likely to spread the vaccine. Would you agree that unmaking people when COVID rates are high is unsafe? You've used the word "hypocritical" twice and I apologize, but I think I'm missing the point. Who do you think is hypocritical? What actions/advice are they doing/giving that are hypocritical? The hypocrisy can come direct from the CDC article you posted: vs this one: The hypocrisy is simple. The main reason for the reduction in masks is to gain acceptance of the vaccine, not reduction of the virus spread. That is manipulative. Both masking and the vaccine are methods to reduce the spread of COVID. If the end goal was the eliminate or greatly reduce COVID spread (thus eliminating the deaths caused by it), the metrics of infection rates should be the determination on dropping masks. Both vaccines and mask wearing should speed us to that goal.