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T-Rats close the deal 4-2. Pena and Dickinson and Alastre with 2 H each tonight. Dickinson is saying hello to the prospect charts and in this 2nd half is asking "where is my ranking", with a nice offensive 2nd half. Pitching was good with 5 solid IP by Thompson, then Meneses, Fowler and the ever-entertaining Yerlin.
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And Dinges with a 2 run HR in the 10th. Then they load the bases with only 1 out. But Boeve Ks, and Wood grounds out facing the OF Kilpatrick who came on to pitch. Could have blown it wide open. But what a comeback. Now need to get 3 outs before giving up 2 runs please. But is Biloxi pitching so who knows?
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Out on the island the Blue Crew beat the Cleveland Mendoza Crew. Matos with another 2 hit performance. 18-year old Luis Aguayo with another nice start,. ‘The Brewers Gold lose to the Pirates, because you know all Brewers teams are contractually obligated to lose to a Pirates team 🙄😩 sheesh. Moneys 0-1 but with 3 BB, and the team drew 8 walks, but only 3 hits. Solid start by Daniel Garcia, who like Derlin Garcia looks like a string ACL candidate next health permitting. While we are on the subject, many alive the Brewers are just struggling against the Pirates 1-6 on the year. The lone win against the MLB Pirates was when the Brewers were 13-13 going on 14-13 the last time brewers were .500. They have really stunk against the lesser teams in the league (Giants, Tigers, A’s, Nats, Pirates)
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I agree - completely surprised by that. I would have expected Carlos Rodriguez to at least been tradeable or part of the Colorado trade - like add in Rodriguez for a low level prospect back to us; or Tyler Black even. Manfredi was in the discussion on protect or not, but not much else. Now he is going to a team for free. Outside of letting Frias go - yes a MLB pitcher is still more valuable than a low A talented prospect - I was more surprised by the lack of upper level "blocked" prospects moving. Which reminds me - can milb trades still happen, or is there no trades after the deadline?
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Well after the trade info dust settles, I look at the games from the island today, and oof not a good start for Mr. Derlin Garcia, but that is an aberration on his fine season. Hitters were clearly too distracted by watching one of their own in Frias get traded to the enemy that most bats went silent. The Golden Brewers mustered (or is it mustard lol) only 3 hits. In the other game - Mr. Leander Matos with two hits for the Blue Crew and S. Franeites with his 5th HR in a nice offensive year for a catcher. Jordy Brache with an actual OK outing - 3K to 2 BB which is a huge improvement for the young man I have an eye on. And Carlos Galindo pitched well. I see the big league team is mourning in unison with our DSL brethren in a potentially lifeless game (by scoreboard watching, I'm not watching the game itself). Anyhoo ..... looking forward to Tuesday Milb action. Hopeful for a few new names in some line up cards
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I think his highest reported EV against the ACL Reds (?was that the game) was reported as maybe a tick off, as a lot of readings (EVs and maybe even pitch velo - I would have to look up the game thread for that night) were a bit suspect as maybe too high. But his other recorded EVs were legit for an 18 year old.
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I am telling myself the southern league “live ball” is what made Ragsdale look so good. And with the OF “depth” of mlb club (Chourio, Lara, Frelick, Mitchell) and Adamczewski, Payne, Strosnider, and possibly Jones and Antunez, Frias was maybe expendable. But boy I will miss those two. Manfredi needed a change of scenery and Juan Martinez is solid prospect but not top 30. It’s going to look very different here in the minors - hopeful to see Ebel the younger, Jones, Strosnider soon, and hopeful to unearth a few late round gems. Anyway I’ll get over it. And thankful for this forum. I probably care too much about these prospects. I was pretty bummed to see Frias go. If you couldn’t tell 😉
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I’m agreeing here. This is a fun season and we should be happy the brewers are in the running for top 5 team in regular season, but with the dodgers jogging to a best or next to best record, and the Cubs playing equal to the brewers the last 2 months, this is not likely to be the year to push the cards in. Roll with what we have, and see if we can make a little noise.
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I hear you. I am more just shocked at the return. My exercise was to estimate what that trade would have been close to. Obviously the tigers see it very differently, but that is an incredibly underwhelming return, and my best guess was that was the “similar” package in terms of talent. Or am I completely underestimating the dodgers players (who I know nothing about other than Hope). But the Payne/Crow/Renz package, yeah if I’m Detroit I’d say “no way” as well, but it is similar to what they just took in from the dodgers in terms of prospect valuation - which seems odd. And of course I wouldn’t have given up Peña and Henderson and also heard that was the ask. And I’m glad we didn’t. But they settled for far less than Pena and Henderson. I am curious as to why they would haven taken such a deal. Rhetorical question as I know the answer - they value those players way more than many ranking models (most likely) or they got desperate to make a deal and took something (less likely) EDIT : ESPN (yeah I know, not exactly the most knowledgeable for mlb) gave the tigers a “D” grade which is kinda what I was thinking. Dodgers kept another team from acquiring skubal and far less of a package than what was being expected or asked for. Oh well, yet another example of how baseball is broken
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And Robinson (as you mentioned) plus Jacob Morrison making his high-A debut with 3 scoreless innings. So while Dubanewicz and especially Manuel and Carlos Rodriguez struggled, we did have a few bright spots.
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But that's not even CLOSE to what they got from the Dodgers. Hope is a top 30 overall prospect who has "fallen" to 40-50s. And no way would I even offer Henderson and Hardin for what they gave the Tigers, I'd do one of ours for both of them, but wow. So maybe a better comp - Payne (power and former 1st rounder) or Burke, plus Crow/Renz.
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I would put it as DeBerry, Owens and maybe Wagoner. Letson's first half struggles, and often short outings would limit him or a guy like Knoth from this type of "award" although I think Letson/KNoth are among the top prospects we have. Also would consider Wande Torres, and Tyson Hardin if you look at his AAA splits, and ignore the AA part of his season. So it's a few, but Dubanewicz, Dorchies, Mercedes just treading water as prospects. Wichrowski, M. Rodriguez and C. Rodriguez have all taken a step back (manuel only due to his lack of any velocity bump). Woodward and Broughton coming back from serious injury just pitching is encouraging, so we will have to see results next year to better evaluate. Flores, Cairone, Thompson, Morrison, Episcope, and Meccage are talented but either injured, coming back from serious injury or missed significant time and ability is the most important ability. So it's been a less than stellar year in pitching development. Encouraging that a lot of pitchers are finally healthy, but very few have had that big step up.
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so if we had traded Adamzewski, Knoth and Crow, would that have been an equivalent package, or even more than what the LAD gave up?? Probably too much. I mean Hope is a good player, but no Sirota or DePaula. Adamczewski is probably in line or slightly less than him given the defensive limitations. Crow is formerly injured, talented pitcher, and the thrid pitcher Brady Smith is back of the top 30 for Dodgers which would make it more like ~40 for our depth. So maybe not even Knoth, but Renz or Torres? Shoot I would have offered Renz, Crow and Jett Williams for a rental in Skubal for sure. Maybe not Knoth and Adamczewski, but one could have been an upgrade to do it. I was hearing rumors of Luis Pena, or Logan Henderson, and that would have been an overpay. Dodgers got a steal yet again. And great for baseball to have LA win yet another championship. Just incredible and awful for this sport.
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I guess what I am wondering - this effects the 26 man roster, or the 40 man. Manipulating the 40 man this way won't work long term. But the 26 man roster sure, and if we had 30-40 guys who could be in the MLB and then have a few players OK with "sitting out" we should do it, but I think the Dodgers have that luxury, and like you said older pitchers who then can be injury prone - plus have a guaranteed contract - are more likely to go along with this. The other is, if on the IL no guarantee that Snell and Glasnow are healthy for example. I guess I'm not sure how they circumvent the rules competely, since the Brewers do a lot with the 26 man manipulation (like when Gasser was sent down but went to AZ where he was going to ptich anyway), but the 40 man manipulation in season is not fair, but when the players do come back they have to take a player off the 40-man. I assume I'm just missing something here.
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honest quetsion here - I can see how it's gaming the system. But on the other hand, those players don't play for at least 2 months, and when they return they will have to DFA/release a player, correct? So the Brewers could do this, but probably don't because they want to play their players and not stash someone who needs 2-3 weeks rehab on the 60 day (ie like Harrison) since they want him to pitch when ready not when it helps. Plus it would result in a lot of AAA and fringe MLB players released and the Brewers love to work those margins. So the Dodgers do it because they have the US military budget as a payroll, the Brewers dont' because they want to use each player. So it is more a money thing than a completely bending the rules, right? I mean any of those dodgers pitchers probably don't love not playing, but if they have a huge contract, know they will be in the playoffs, and are ok with rehabbing longer to maybe preserve their long term health, they may be on board. But with another club that player will not be very happy.

