We've already passed it. Hader had immense value a year or two ago when his control was higher and his average cost per year remaining was lower. He's worth something, but it isn't nearly what it was and isn't nearly what an average fan is going to like. I think they're going to hold onto him for that very reason. Yelich is the same deal in a different way. A year ago was the optimal window if you were going to trade him, he was one of the most valuable trade chips in baseball. His rough year to a lesser extent, and his extension to a greater extent, have significantly and negatively impacted his surplus value since that time. They're all-in on keeping Yelich for the long haul now and he'll not be dealt, IMO. In some way, I think this was more of a "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario. If someone was offering an amazing package a year ago, Stearns would've pulled the trigger already. The fact that Hader is still with us likely means that the market was just never there, and had Stearns pulled the trigger earlier, we still may have been underwhelmed by what we got. Yet at the same time, the longer we continue to hold on to him, the less return we may get.