I think robin hit it pretty squarely (hey, you should be the batting coach!) by saying that it seems to be the same thing no matter who the coach is. The coach can't program the players like a robot, to use my wife's term, to hit the ball squarely and only swing at good pitches. It takes discipline from the hitters. Whacking batting practice pitches all over the place does not make a hitter. He must do it in game situations. The hitting coach can't go out there and do the hitting for him. He can, however, remind the player of what they've worked on. He can watch video and point out flaws. He can work on things during BP with the player, either on the field or in the cage below the stands. But once the game starts, the onus is on the player to do the job. If he can't then you maybe need to do more drastic changes (trade, bench, demotion, etc.). But I don't know what else the hitting coach can do. Getting rid of him, I don't see, is part of the solution. Sure, that's what teams have done throughout baseball history but does it really accomplish anything? That'd be an interesting study to see. ennder, I appreciate those statistics that you posted. Is it possible that the August and September numbers are maybe inflated a bit not just because of the warmer weather but also because of the diluted pitching staffs throughout the NL when rosters expand and teams bring up marginal pitchers to work games? It would make sense to me. The numbers rising with the warmer weather makes perfect sense and I believe that I've seen stats similar to that posted here or I read them in an article. I would think that the numbers have to be skewed just a bit, though, due to teams bringing up AA and AAA lifers (34-year-olds, etc.) and young guys that just don't have it and get their cup of coffee and depart into baseball obscurity with a career 6.75 ERA.