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I was really happy with the JBJ signing just for the simple fact Cain didn't play in 2020 along with Garcia being a groundball machine in 2020. It didn't work out but somehow we got out of it after 1 year. And there is nothing bad about a 1 year mistake if you get your everday RF for a guy who OPS+ was 35.

We are off topic but wanted to chime in Add Kolten Wong to that list. I could see them staying around where they are right now or a tad higher, not close to last years payroll. And none of the following are justified excuses just me speculating rightly or wrongfully. A)Our owner invested in a soccer team in England B)He is a hedge fund guy and the stock market is having a horrible year, doesn't mean his firm is having a bad year but it is possible. C)Attendance wasn't great last year

Brosseau is going to make it over Hiura just for the simple fact he actually has a spot in the lineup vs. lefties, not to mention the ability to play 2B and 3B. Probably don't even want Hiura at 2b unless it is a emergency situation because range matters at 2B with the banning of the shift. Wonder when the Hiura for a reliever trade happens.

Great points didn't know it was that steep on the Braves side, appreciate the insight!

He is regarded as one of the best if not the best

I love the trade but if the A's really loved Ruiz couldn't we have just worked out a package for one of the best catchers in the game in Sean Murphy?

If true we can hopefully add defensive value to Contreras game. The dugout clearing brawls with his brother will be awkward though.

Ya which is different than strictly baseball....which contributes to his net worth. which is exactly what I said. Thanks for the education lesson.

Far more sources of revenue sure which is why I am counting the owners 3 Billion net worth. If we are talking strictly baseball. And just by doing a quick search the Brewers and Padres had very similar revenues in 2021 and 2019.

I see how teams are trying to get around the luxury tax, basically writing off the final couple years. We might be getting to 2012 NHL lockout type stuff when teams were handing out 14 year deals to keep their cap numbers low. Padres fans are pretty lucky to have an owner like this. Looked up his net worth and it is $3 Billion. If they really are profitable with handing out these contracts as a mid market team then fans of most teams are getting absolutely duped by their owners.

A's also have Shea Langeliers probably ready to take over for Murphy right now.

Feel like Turang is overvalued in this and Gasser is undervalued but it pretty much evens out in my uneducated opinion. Yes I would do this trade in a heartbeat.

My line of thinking stems from maximizing the next two years of Woodruff, Burnes, and to a lesser extent Adames. We need to raise the floor and ceiling of this team, and I am not even talking about winning a world series I am talking about just making the playoffs. The six teams that made the playoffs in the NL on paper are all going to be just as strong as last year. I realize the game is not played on paper and there will be a lot of volatility but right now I see us a little bit below the Phillies now that they added Trea Turner's 5 wins with the snap of a finger. Anyway Sean Murphy is one of the few players that raises the floor and ceiling of the team. He also leads the league in pop time which will be important as controlling the running game will become more valuable in the new MLB enviornment. Yes that would be a lot to give up but look at the depth in our outfield in the system. Chourio, Frelick, Mitchell, Ruiz, Wiemer. Yes some will fail but even if some will, do we really have room for all of them to maximize their value for us? If I have to subtract from our plethora of OF prospects I would. Turang I am just not sure how good he really is offensively, love the glove and love his speed. Having said that, I wouldn't hesitate to cash in on his perceived value knowing he will never come close to having any sort of power with a career minor league ISO of .102, without a great hit tool we could just be talking about a player who may just have a career like Kevin Newman. Gasser would sting but that would be the price of doing business. Having said all that even these 3 as the framework wouldn't be enough. My guess is it is going to take two guys in the top 100 close to MLB ready or that have a small amount of MLB experience. So yes probably a pipe dream.

Agree wholeheartedly with this. You either maximize these next 2 years with those 3 or what is the point?

I would do that in a heartbeat

I believe it does

To piggyback off of this, Murphy also has a better track record hitting, Murphy has a career 116 WRC and Jansen has a career 98 WRC.

It is also how it goes for about 20 teams historically. Don't really see how anyone can be mad, its not like even one decent trade has gone down at the Winter Meetings.

Can't wait to see him lose his mind when he gets hit on his elbow pad. I give it 1.5 games.

In your scenario I think teams 10-12 would have even higher odds than 16.5% because only 9 teams would be playing the lottery.

As Brewers fans we should be really happy with the new lottery rules. At least now we have some sort of odds of picking in the top 6, especially as it gets rolling with teams being taken out of the lottery and placed 10th. Brewers have only picked once in the top 6 since 2005, so will take any odds we can get.

You can actually read the intricacies of the calculation in the CBA since it was collectively bargained. I do not recommend though, ha.

This is from the previous CBA so it isn't perfect I believe Houston, Seattle and Atlanta have all moved up to being a payor instead of payee. Vice versa I believe Oakland is being phased back into being a payee.

Pretty sure resetting the clock has to do with actually picking in the top 6 and not to do with the playoffs.