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What a dumb idea. Turang is terrible. Why bring a guy into that?
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Well, his face is half blacked out. If we polled the general Brewers fan population to guess who that was at quick glance...I bet many would pick Adames. I also could see some incorrect Tyrone Taylor guesses.
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Kinda crazy tidbit: This will be Corbin Burnes 2nd postseason start of his career. Freddy Peralta also has only ever started one postseason game...despite both being on the team since the 2018 postseason. Combined they have only half the amount of postseason starts that Wade Miley has had for the Brewers.
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Because half the MLB is in a one hour radius circle of Phoenix. Most cities have a team already and the players aren't getting paid. The stadiums are also mostly seasonal. A month of games and then a ghost town. I realize there are minor league games and such...but that is a blip on the radar. There isn't the immense value the MLB franchise brings and there is very little relocation threat. There is value, but it isn't like you get to reap the benefits of the $150mil+ MLB payrolls for income tax or sales tax for 81 games of 30k people.
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Before Woodruff was out? I think they were a decent team to have a shot at it. Great odds? No...but they had the best pitching staff in baseball. Couple guys go on a streak and that pitching staff could carry them deep. You still have Peralta/Burnes and they can cover a majority of games in a series...so I wouldn't say all hope is lost.
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This sucks, but baseball is fickle. For all we know, Woodruff was about to toss 6 ERs over 2 innings to blow Game 2. We still have the pitchers to get it done. Both Peralta and Burnes have the ability to win two games in a series with their arms. Wade Miley, as boring as he seems, can pitch a lot of zeros. On paper, it is a big loss, but over the course of a game or three…who knows if it was even a loss. Just gotta move on without him.
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Considering the failure rate of prospects and/or failing to get anywhere near their potential…you are lucky if one actually turns into what you hope. It is a sharp drop off from there. Misiorowski is also the only obvious TOR guy. The other two have some interesting intrigue, but have a lot more going against them to become those kind of pitchers. Of course my post did mention the Brewers catching some magic/luck tI…which would be something like those three pitchers all hitting their potential and coming out of the gate sprinting. But that would be somewhat like hitting the powerball. It’s going to take a lot to go right for the Brewers to be a legit WS contender after Burnes/Woodruff skip town. The Mets, while they have a lot of question marks themselves, it is a fraction of what we have. They have a lot more money to fix issues. We don’t have the luxury.
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Again, I said it in my post I don't envision them rebuilding and turning into a 90 loss team. Getting the final wild card only takes about 85 wins. Is that going to be a push once Burnes/Woodruff hit the road? Sure seems like what you would label their ceiling. Certainly, we have lots to love offensively in the minors. Pitching...well, that is pretty yikes. Burnes/Woodruff are pretty hard to replace and the difference between being WS contenders and .500ish fodder trying to sneak into the last spot. I have always been a supporter of extending Woodruff to help bridge the gap rotation wise. If you take those two out of the equation you have Freddy Peralta and a pile of garbage. There are a few guys down in the minors, but odds are one or two totally flop or severely underperform their potential. Moral of the story, Brewers are going to be entering a massive loss of talent this offseason/next season and you gotta be pretty optimistic about a lot of guys who haven't even seen the MLB field to explain how they won't be struggling after 2024. Maybe the offense finds enough young guys to actually be a pretty good unit...but that rotation is going to need a little magic/luck to not weigh them down. Not sure the Mets situation is as dreamy as it looked 12 months ago, but certainly there is a lot of money/talent to be had over there. A lot better looking than the Brewers at face value. But of course...one could have said that 12 months ago too, but our season went the exact opposite.
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Did you read the entire post, or just cherry-pick? Because the next sentence mentions how it is unlikely all of them return. So I am fully aware one or some may return. The point is, it is quite likely at least one goes and very possible all are gone after ‘24. Even one leaving is a pretty big hit to the teams pitching, especially when Miley’s near sub 3 ERA doesn’t repeat itself
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If Counsell leaves, I don't think money was the motivating factor. The main reason if he doesn't return, our roster is about to nosedive. Adames is gone (though he isn't that great it seems), Burnes is gone, and Woodruff is gone, heck even Miley is gone. It is pretty doubtful all those guys return...if they were, Counsell probably would stick around another year. I don't care how optimistic you are, deep down, you know this team is going to be quite low odds to make the postseason in upcoming years. We probably aren't going to run out there and lose 90+ games, but our starting rotation is not pretty looking after we lose two Cy Young candidates. I always figured he would bail after the year to be with his family (didn't care much to manage elsewhere), but if Counsell 100% wants to manage next year...yah, Milwaukee isn't really a great gig. Getting a WC spot would be a success in 2024+. As far as this award, the award is kind of dumb and subjective. Counsell would win the award if it was based on the last 5 years of tenure...but it basically awards the surprising team of the year. Which is fine, or else the same manager would just by default year over year.
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He lives in Whitefish Bay, literally where he grew up and went to high school. He owns a house that is pretty modest and close enough to his neighbors that he can hit the side of their house while snow blowing. The lot is so narrow he can't even have a two wide driveway (that is asphalt to boot). He doesn't pay to get his roof cleaned and his peak landscaping is a Whitefish Bay 'Duke Pride' sign in the front flower bed. I am pretty sure Counsell said he only took the Brewers job because it was the Brewers...any other team and he wouldn't have started managing a team. I am also pretty sure he has said before he doesn't really have interest in managing elsewhere either. If I had to guess, I would put the odds at 60% that he is considering not managing period next year. Live life, be with his wife, travel, and watch the kids play etc. It is probably the most sensible option. However, if that was the case, I would think he would have just come out and said it. Maybe he doesn't want to draw attention during the season though. I would probably put a 30% chance he is just playing chess to get the best offer out of Milwaukee. And maybe a 10% chance he is actually considering going to a better place to win. I really can't imagine him uprooting his family and going all the way to NYC though. It just doesn't really make any sense.
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Except Hader has been crying about his usage and in what inning it was in for nearly a half decade. This isn’t really something he got cautious about two weeks before Free Agency. I am surprised this is even news, who called him out for refusing to pitch? Hader has pitched 4 outs just three times since 2019. The postseason once last year, 2020 during the regular season, and 2020 during the postseason. The guy has never been a team player, just looking to get paid. Complain about being a closer or not is one thing. But he complains about arbitration every time and refuses to pitch more than an inning. He knows he gets paid based on ERA and saves. A few less innings is great, just pad his stats. I mean one time he made his Players Weekend jersey his outdoor clothing brand on the back to try and use it as marketing instead of his legitimate nickname.
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Josh Hader only cares about the money, that has been quite obvious for years. There isn't more to the story...Josh Hader just hates anything that may cost him a dollar.
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Didn’t Milwaukee just pass some 2% tax that will take effect next year or so?
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Plus, about $10mil in income tax generated. That is $30mil per year total in just straight up cold hard cash getting collected. $600mil over 20 years without having to jump through complicated mental gymnastics to then value economic impact etc. etc...which do add value for the city/county. It doesn't seem like a bad deal at all. The deal will get done after the county/city bicker about it for awhile.
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Does the city or county not have a tax on ticket sales? No entertainment tax? Nothing? Even if they don’t have that, Milwaukee county get .5% of all ticket sales from county residents, every penny of sales inside the stadium, all of the money generated in the county by visitors, and the city gets motel tax. That has got to be a bonkers amount of money a year.
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I’m sure the city wants them to invest around the stadium because then they kind of pin themselves there forever and their argument to get up and leave come 2045 is pretty weak. Obviously the Brewers don’t want to invest in a spot that isn’t technically ever considered permanent. I could see the Brewers trying to pull something like this 20 years from now when they may be begging for an entire new stadium and need 3x what they are requesting now. If you’re Attanasio and dreaming of investing in residential/retail infrastructure, I’m pretty sure he could find a 1,000 places better in the country to do it. Probably dozens in the SE Wisconsin area that are better. If you were going to invest hundreds of millions, fandom aside, would you really think the AmFam area is anywhere near the top of best places to do it?
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If it has no relevancy to the Brewers, what are they gaining from it? The difference between titletown and AmFam is the fact the area around Lambeau was nice as-is. Nice residential, other attractions, and Lambeau is an off-season attraction in itself. If Attanasio wanted to invest in real estate and housing, he could find better place to do it. The area around AmFam is honestly a dump of uselessness to feed off of. VA is 50% of the surrounding area with a cemetery, 40% is like industrial type stuff, and 10% is a small community to the far north on the other side of the highway. Who is going to want to live in a sea of parking lots and cemeteries? What business wants to be there? The area is just nothing, unfortunately.
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The problem is, the area is currently a wasteland, a total wasteland. When the Brewers aren’t in town, no one is there. There isn’t an economic area to bolster, supplement, and feed off of. How do you find tenants/builders when the area will be dead over half the year? Not to mention, compete with tailgating (good food and beer that is cheap). The Deer District, STL Cardinals district, and even Lambeau Field don’t really have to compete with people bringing their own food/beer. The Brewers have done little pop-up tailgate/attraction areas in the parking lot before and they are always a flop. On another note, I think winterizing AmFam is probably largely due to the system needing replacement anyway and the cost to bolster it is probably not that much in the grand scheme. While most larger stadium tours are in the summer, I think there are still plenty of events that take place in the winter they would be looking to attract. Certainly, it would give Milwaukee a very unique venue that has no real comparable nearby as Chicago and Minneapolis both have outdoor baseball stadiums. Is there an interest in a venue size between that of a basketball arena and a football stadium? I don’t think them hosting Badgers basketball was a coincidence, I think they would bid for an Elite 8. They have had it at Lucas Oil Stadium, so clearly there is an appetite for a bigger venue than a basketball arena can hold.
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I wouldn’t say it is a bad deal, at least for the state. They will make it back through income and sales tax. You can’t really make the argument the money could be spent better some other way because said money wouldn’t exist if the team left. I will admit, I don’t really know enough on a city/county level how much value these franchises actually create. For some of these stadiums downtown it can certainly have a major impact on the quality of an entire area…AmFam isn’t exactly the same way though.
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Clearly there is something to it. If they were just graciously letting him clean out his locker and go home due to injury they would have said/done something.
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It appears Shohei Ohtani is rage quitting the Angels after clearing out his locker yesterday.
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He isn’t diluting himself. He doesn’t need to invest more into the Brewers. The valuation of the franchise is what it is. It goes up with the general value of MLB as a whole. That is why a completely dysfunctional and disaster of a sports franchise can be put up for sale and break records when sold.
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No, because I literally acknowledged that in my post. My point is, losing Stearns isn't really that much of a loss for future purposes. You can keep a guy's philosophy and the foundation they built long after they are gone. This is not college football, losing the main guy (head coach in college football terms), doesn't result in an exodus of the current guys and then no one wants to come in because they are gone. Most of the personnel outside of Stearns (if not all) will stick around.
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Honestly, who cares. If he was so great, the Mets wouldn't have waited years to get him. If he was so great, he probably would have figured out how to take a team that won 95+ and was one game away from the World Series to the second level of the playoffs again. Yet, here we are half a decade later...happy to win a single postseason game before getting bounced. He has failed for years to make an offense not be so embarrassing, yet here we are...still sucking. Never used prospect capital to really add much and sucked at spending money in FA. A winning culture he may have built and a consistent competitive team. That culture can survive way past him if you know what you are doing. It is probably a good thing he is gone and passing on the torch. His value to the franchise clearly maxed out and plateaued. Not saying he is bad or didn't dramatically changed Brewers baseball...but Stearns isn't a magically holy grail. He is quite replacable.
