Jopal78
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Maybe if the comment was Marlins got the biggest influx of talent; it would be fair. But Miami gutting their roster in order for the sole purpose of starting over for the umpteenth time really doesn’t impress me, especially given their track record in trading vets for minor leaguers.
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Someone’s post was “Marlins winning the deadline” to which my response was trading vets away doesn’t mean anything other than you suck. Nobody will know for 3-4 years who “won” thr deadline if anyone
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They gave up no value: a relief pitcher who’s been hurt most the year and their 6th or 7th best OFer.
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That’s the point: acquiring a bunch of minor leaguers at the deadline doesn’t mean anything other than you suck at the major league level
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Yes, but look at haul they got for Stanton and Yelich. None of those players turned out to do anything for Miami
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What about Nestor Cortes? The Yankees are trying to trade for Flaherty while flipping Cortes for luxury tax purposes. Maybe the Brewers should suggest a ménage trois flipping some minor league talent to Detroit and getting Cortes from NY.
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Jake Burger is pre arbitration and under team control through 2028, so the Marlins probably aren’t looking to move him unless they receive an offer, they can’t refuse
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I agree with you his physical tools probably got him drafted in the first place. However, it’s a results driven sport. Joey has not figured out how to even hit .260 in AAA. So it’s a pretty big assumption that he’s going to figure out how to successfully hit major league pitching. Falling steadily down the outfield depth chart; how much patience does Wiemer deserve? Not to mention being on the 40 man roster for two years and not in the majors his remaining options come into play. Seems most likely the Brewers believed Joey was at or near his ceiling and that’s why he was expendable.
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What is your definition of “prospect”? Someone who appeared on a list at some point in time? Since leaving A+ ball Wiemer has an OPS under .790. On top of that he’s a college player and turned professional four years ago. Plus, there’s three pre-arbitration eligible outfielders acquired after Wiemer who have passed him by to the 26 man roster. Maybe his athleticism gets him to the majors again as a defensive CFer, but I wouldn’t call that profile “decent young outfielder”. Those type of players are readily available… see Blake Perkins.
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I don’t know why you would say it’s bad; the Brewers literally traded a reliever on an expiring contract who has been injured most the season and a minor league outfielder with no path to playing time in Milwaukee. Other than cash or PTBNL I don’t think the Brewers could have given up less to get a pitcher to eat more innings for them. I agree with you it’s pretty underwhelming on paper but I’d call it a neutral deal. Montas likely does not make them immediately better but they likely won’t miss Junis or Wiemer either
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Braves (Holmes) vs Brewers (Rea): 7/29/24, 7:10pm
Jopal78 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Archived Game Threads
I don’t know about that. While his homer per 9 are up this year, his walks per 9 are down. Still a WHIP of 1.00. Perhaps he’s simply been unlucky with the gofer ball. -
I don’t get the Joey love (Of course I never get the blind prospect love). He was a fourth round pick that defied the odds and made the majors where he mostly could not hit a lick. This year he’s been no higher than 6th/7th on the depth chart: Yelich, Frelick, Chourio, Perkins, Mitchell etc. Where five of the players in front of him are pre arb eligible, former bonus babies or on long term contracts. This trade is a reliever who’s been hurt for most the year and pitched in 10 of 100+ games for a back of the rotation starter, and the Brewers threw in a young OFer who’s a fringe major leaguer and likely close to his ceiling.
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It’s 14 million this year with a 2 million dollar buy out on a mutual option. Brewers likely on hook for 6-7 million MINUS the 3.3 they owed Junis in salary and buy out. Rarely If ever are mutual options exercised
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But Montas is a starter and Junis is reliever both are free agents in 60 days. Who cares about Wiemer, odds are he would not have a spot in the Brewer OF anyways with Yelich, Frelick, Perkins, Chourio and Mitchell
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Edman is a really good player, he’s just been injured all year and is under control through through 2025. So the Cardinals did give something significant up. They got two players back who may be impactful then again maybe not. Pham is Pham he’s not bad at anything but isn’t particularly good at any one thing either. He would only be an upgrade for the Cardinals because Dylan Carlson and Siani have been that bad. Maybe Fedde is the next Miles Mikolas who goes to Korea and learns how to pitch and makes it last. Then again he was out of the majors less than a year ago because he wasn’t a good enough player. So there’s certainly some volatility there
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Look at the date of that post. March 9th… when JD Davis was released by Oakland.
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Matt Arnold Deadline Predictions!
Jopal78 replied to Scooterfletcher's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
The Brewers could use more talent all over their roster: you can never have enough pitching, they could use a pure hitter anywhere in the lineup and infield depth could be better. That being said, it’s a seller’s market and the Brewers don’t really trade from their major league roster or from their collection of blue chippers at the deadline. As such. I would expect a couple of unheralded moves like the Mears trade if anything (Justin Turner to DH and play a little 1B/3B). Quite possibly their reinforcements will be some combo of Joe Ross, DL Hall and JB Bakauskas. With Yelich in September -
Whitesox as trade partner (Crochet/Fedde)
Jopal78 replied to Scooterfletcher's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
Crochet wants a contract extension before agreeing to pitch in October. So he’s not willing to stress his arm without a guarantee agreed to first. Probably won’t be traded. I also hope the Brewers don’t trade any blue chippers for Fedde. The bulk of his career he has been bad. (bWAR this year 4.7; career bWAR 4.3). Seems like a huge risk the clock will strike midnight at some point and he’ll be Lindblom Part 2. -
Simple, the more you have the more they stay fresh and not over worked
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The last two years combined he has an ERA approaching 5.
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Your post gets to the heart of the matter. Wiemer is a college player drafted four years ago in the 4th round for $150,000 bonus. Certainly teams don’t draft college players with the hope they develop in 5-6 years. You might be right though and Joey could still become an everyday player in the majors. But I think the odds are the Brewers will need his 40 man spot sooner than that for players they like who they have more money invested in and/or might otherwise lose in the Rule 5 process or maybe even sooner depending how much they shake up they remake their roster at the deadline.
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What does that bring his season OPS up to? .720? .730? Give me a break. That a 4th round pick made the major leagues at all is a huge success. But Wiemer didn’t really impress last year in the majors, because of his struggles he remade his swing and hasn’t been impressive in AAA this year despite it being his 3rd go around. Minor league free agent signee Brewer Hicklen is likely closer to the major leagues than Joey Wiemer (.950 OPS in AAA with 150 more ABs than Joey). Pro baseball is a tough fickle business; with a fully stacked roster of OFers and players Milwaukee needs to add to their 40 man roster, you think the Brewers are just going to hold on to a guy because he “might” be passable in the majors some day?
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Can we not throw Ashby’s name in trade discussions? Look at his stat line, he’s a disaster in AAA and has 18 million dollars of guaranteed money remaining on his contract after this year. No team would agree to assume that mess unless the Brewers had a real sweetener in the pot. Similar situation with Hoskins. He’s guaranteed a good chunk of money still. He can’t run, he’s not their best first baseman and he has barely hit better than replacement level. Unless the Brewers are going to include talent to move his contract they’re most likely stuck with him.
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Cannot say the Brewers have missed Houser and Tyrone Taylor. Frankly it’s kind of amazing they got the Mets to take on all their salary in the trade.
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Sheesh, must be a bear market. Rengifo has a 1.7 bWAR which tops Joey Ortiz. He has an OPS+ of 118, plays 2B, 3B corner OF and is team controlled for 2025. I’m not saying he’s a superstar player, but if the Angels decided to shop him they’d do much better than a couple mid-tier prospects as you suggest. Nobody is going to trade for Joey Wiemer either, they can just wait around and claim him when he gets DFA’d later this year or in the offseason.
