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Peguero, Junk and Seminaris for Renfroe, what a trade. Elvis already has a higher bWAR then Renfroe and Seminaris could still be somebody .

Turner has an .831 OPS and a 13.4 million dollar player option for ‘24. To begin with, the Red Sox probably don’t trade him, they’re 1.5 games behind Houston for the 3rd wild card and 2.5 games behind Toronto for the 5th spot. Even if hypothetically they crater and break up their team, Turner won’t be to Milwaukee they’re not going to commit that kind of cash to a 39 year old player. Same deal with Hader, I doubt they sell because it likely means Preller gets fired at long last. Even if they sell Hader there are 12 teams that would want him and the Padres would do better than some rookie and a ball players not amongst the Brewers best

Randall Grichuk- plays all three spots in the outfield, hits with more power than Tapia, Perkins, etc. Hits lefties better than righties, 32 year old rental could likely be acquired for the salary relief and minor league depth type players Moustakas/Escobar and Tommy Pham for many of the same reasons. Low cost additions, marginal upgrades fits the narrative of the front office not trading from tomorrow Although I’m not sure if those players are in the “Top 50”

Looks like you have a philosophical difference with Counsell, as he certainly uses the DH spot to get his regulars off their feet in order to help stay fresh. Whether in the long run, that philosophy is better than having a player who DH’s every day is anyone’s guess.

The Brewers are going to need at least 2 40 man roster spots soon for Woodruff and Justin Wilson. Plus additional room for anyone they acquire at the trade deadline. That is probably why Black is not being thought of as a contributor to Milwaukee right now.

Maybe the Brewers could pick up Eduardo Escobar. No doubt a rough year at the plate this season, but an .809 OPS against LHP and has hit lefties better than righties his entire career. He also has been a decent hitter at AmFam with a .772 OPS there. The Angels would probably be happy to move him for no other reason than to get out from under the remaining 3-4 million left in his contract.

Ok, I don’t know what the point is in relation to my post? Could they upgrade their hitters sure, never said they couldn’t. What matters is when the GM says most improvement is going to have to come from within, and they do not intend to trade from tomorrow. That means, to me anyways, they’re going bargain hunting at the deadline: players they can get in exchange for offering some salary relief and 2nd tier prospects Are they going to get starting caliber position players when that’s what they have to shop with? Time will tell, but I’m not holding my breath.

“Meet the new boss, same as the old boss”…

But their situation is no different, they add arms every year. Why? Exactly for the reason you cite, so not to burn down the reliable back end guys, and to not have to count on Uribe, Strzelecki, Lauer or players like Ashby potentially coming back from a major arm/shoulder injury. If you really believe they are going to drastically remake their lineup at the deadline, I can only say prepare to be disappointed you haven’t been paying attention to how the team truly operates.

It’s not pessimism, it’s realism. Who did the Brewers add at the deadline last year? Matt Bush and Trevor Rosenthal were picked up for essentially nothing. They added Taylor Rogers as part of the Hader deal. In ‘21 they added Escobar for essentially nothing again, and Daniel Norris for Reese Olson, who has been a nice surprise this year, but at the time was a High A pitcher without eye popping stats. So in my opinion expecting them to land a big name player or two is a little unrealistic in light of how they have operated in the past and their own GM’s recent comments. As to Canha the argument is not that he’s controllable for ‘24, its price. He’s still owed 5+ million or so this year and a 2 million buyout (That’s not cheap for a team like Milwaukee). Second, because he’s not a rental, it is not the same as the typical situation where non-contenders are shipping out expiring contracts to avoid cost. It’s not pessimistic, the reality is there doesn’t seem to be much surplus value there. As for Hernandez, check the stat sheet the Brewers have Tellez, Turang, Adames, Wiemer, Perkins and Tapia as regular or semi-regular players all with OBPs under .300. Tellez, Adames, Turang and Wiemer are all striking out at or close to a 40% clip. That’s half the line up. Elloy Jimenez a 26 year old with 83 homers in 378 MLB games and under contract through 2026 is going to have incredible value even if he’s hurt almost as often as Buxton in Minnesota. That’s why the White Sox aren’t likely going to move him, he’s part of their core and they’re going to retool for ‘24 not tear it down. As for the final comments, if you don’t think the Brewers are shopping for relief pitching then I wonder how closely you follow baseball. All contenders shop for it and the Brewers specifically add it every July when they’re a buyer: Bush, Rosenthal, Rogers, Norris, Curtiss, Lyles, Pomeranz, Gio Gonzalez, Soria, K-Rod, Broxton, Linebrink etc etc. Finally, of course they’re going to look to add contact hitters because they already have too many players that have trouble making contact.

They won’t be in on any of those players. 1.) Canha has a club option for ‘24 at 11.5 million dollars or a 2 million dollar buy out. Doesn’t make sense for Milwaukee, because the Mets are not simply going to give a productive controllable player away, and the Brewers are unlikely to pick up an 11.5 million dollar club option, and theoretical cost only goes up if the Brewers ask the Mets to kick in cash. 2.) Hernandez- the Mariners are six games back in their division and five in the wild card, they probably don’t sell with 36 of their remaining 69 games against losing clubs including 9 against KC and Oakland. Milwaukee likely isn’t interested in Hernandez because they already have a litany of low OBP hitters, high strikeout hitters. 3.) Candelario- would fit nicely on the Brewers but would also fit in Miami, Philadelphia, Minnesota, etc. Therefore, the demand alone will likely make it too rich for the Brewers’ blood. 4.) Goldschmidt— this one I assumed was a joke. He’s owed 36+ million dollars between now and the end of 2024. So, he’s out for money reasons alone. Plus, Goldschmidt has 10/5 rights, so even if the Cardinals want to trade him, he gets to decide for whom he plays. Eloy Jimenez- this one also falls into the category of an assumed joke. A 26 year old hitter with a career OPS of .822 and under contract for 3+ seasons. The Brewers GM already said they’re not going to trade the future for players at the deadline, which is likely the type of capital it would take to get the White Sox to even listen. Finally, Seth Brown - another low OBP hitter who smacks some homers. The Brewers would simply be ahead to wait for Rowdy and Anderson to get healthy than trade for another player of the same skill set. I don’t expect much from the Brewers at the deadline- probably some low profile relief pitchers, maybe someone like Tommy Pham or flawed players who have one of the traits the Brewers look for: defensive versatility, ability to hit LHP, low strike out numbers.

Sure, from the perspective that every player on every team is available for the right price, but sellers hardly ever trade pre arbitration players from their starting lineup. The players the As would look to deal are the ones nobody would want: Tony Kemp, Many Pina, Paul Blackburn, Trevor May etc.

What does Oakland have to trade? That would be like going to a garage sale to find stuff to redecorate with.

Well. Rowdy is out until September and when Anderson went on the DL, they called up Jones. Sure doesnt look like Hiura’s getting another shot in Milwaukee

I would dig the Brewers acquiring Bellinger, plays great defense, runs well, and has hit well this year. Regrettably he’s still a “star” player and his terrific production (bWAR of 2.5 in 60 games) this year means Cubs will get a decent return when they trade him. Likely too rich for the Brewers’ blood.

That non-surgical knee cap injury from 2019 must have finally healed… 🤣

Wiemer earns his pay check with his play in CF, any thing he can add at the plate is a bonus. Even at the dish he’s a good week away from being league average offensively. Unlike Turang, he looks like a young rookie who might pan out into a good starter.

Talk is one thing, but the Angels have never been a team that “sells”. It’s a headline but I’d be surprised if he was actually dealt.

Maybe he has a career as a defensive utility player, but man that slight build and lack of hitting skills screams AAAA

I don’t understand why it would be “bulletin board material”. He didn’t diss anyone, and the Reds pitchers who aren’t hurt have pitched poorly outside of Abbott. Abbott has thrown 95 innings already and has never topped 118 in a season, they’ll probably have to move him to the pen before the season is over to protect his arm.

Hands down best poster on this site. Although, even assuming San Diego sells, Hader will be too rich for the brewers blood.

Correction, he’s actually owed $115 million through the end of ‘27 but his Cardinals extension allows that money to be deferred. Still has no trade clause as far as what’s been published

Arenado has a full no trade clause and approximately 100 million dollars guaranteed between now and the end of ‘26, and no future contributions from Colorado after ‘this year. Since he’s cost prohibitive to all but the largest market teams, and can dictate where he goes, the likelihood he’s traded is realistically nil.

Pointing to a list again, they’re meaningless like a best dressed at the Oscars list. In fact all the comments I originally made about Frelick Misorowski and Black which you disagreed with most of, were in fact made by Keith Law, so what’s that tell you. Anyways, Robert has an bwar of 4.1 at the All-Star break, they’re not going to trade him. Even assuming for the purpose of argument they did, the Sox would in fact get those “can’t miss prospects” offered in return, the very type of prospects the Brewers simply don’t have enough of.

You think every team has 20 minor league players who have a realistic shot at becoming notable major leaguers? If you do, there’s no reason to discuss the matter further.