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  1. 5IP - 2R - 5H - 1BB - 3K But he sucks. You actually undersold him! Great. That'll gave CC the ammo to say "I told you so" and give him three more starts of craptastic pitching. Does craptastic = effectively crappy? I think that's actually a pretty good description of Suter's stuff LOL
  2. 5IP - 2R - 5H - 1BB - 3K But he sucks. You actually undersold him!
  3. Good question. Here are the most recent times the Packers selected two players in the first. 2009 (Raji/Matthews) #9: Raji was the Packers pick #26: Matthews; pick was received from Pats during a draft-day trade. 1993 (Wayne Simmons/George Teague) #15: Simmons was the Packers pick #29 Teague; pick came from Dallas, probably draft-day but I don't know for sure. 1990 (Tony Bennett/Darrell Thompson) #18: Bennett; pick came from Cleveland (plus Herman Fontenot) in a 1989 trade #19: Thompson was the Packers pick. 1978 (James Lofton/John Anderson) # 6: Lofton was the Packers pick # 26: Anderson pick from the Raiders; trade was made prior to the 1977 season 1977 (Mike Butler/Ezra Johnson) # 9: Butler was the Packers pick #28: Johnson pick was from Oakland as part of the Ted Hendricks trade So, it looks like in 1990, 1978 and 1977 the Packers went into the draft with two firsts and used them to pick players. I don't know when they had two picks and used them to move up or acquire players. I want to say it happened during the Wolf/Sherman/Thompson era, but I can't recall the details. They had two 1sts going into the 1992 draft, but traded the second one (which came from Philly in 1991) for Favre. Of course, the #5 pick was used on Buckley.
  4. Santana is playing his way to Colorado Springs. A few singles and bad defense isn't going to keep him in RF.
  5. Darvish is starting to get a little wild, for this strike zone at least. Gotta get a run or two here.
  6. I'm beginning to think the only reason Sogard is on this team is to serve as a champion to little guys who wear glasses. Because it certainly isn't because of any discernible baseball skill.
  7. I think he elicits that negative response because when he doesn't start with great location, his stuff just appears so easily hittable. But from the 2nd-4th innings today, his location has been great, and so have the results. He is frustrating to watch because when he isn't on, he looks like one of the worst pitchers in the league. But when he can locate, he is a middle-of-rotation guy.
  8. Yep, pretty much. There are always going to be people out there who hate Suter because he doesn't throw 95. If he keeps you in games, what else do you want from a #4/5 starter? 5 IP 3 ER is still a pretty bad line. I really don't care how he performs relative to expectations for a #4/#5. I care how he performs relative to what our other options to replace him can perform. If you are talking about Woodruff, I get it. If you are talking about Burnes and Peralta, look at both of their most recent lines. More seasoning needed. I suppose that angst that Suter is causing among the fanbase as our worst performing starter in the end is a good thing. There were past years when removing him wouldn't even be a consideration.
  9. Yep, pretty much. There are always going to be people out there who hate Suter because he doesn't throw 95. If he keeps you in games, what else do you want from a #4/5 starter?
  10. Miley's final rehab start is today I think. If he gets knocked around again, I see no reason at all to give him any starts at the ML level.
  11. 2 for Rodgers, 2 for Tony Romo. This is recent within 10 seasons. Romo retired. When Rodgers has it happen a 3rd time, he'll make tge precedence that collarbones are fragile, like ACLs in football/basketball. So figure out for me the trade value total between the two trades, giving us the 20 pick next season. 14/27/3rd/6th for 18/5th/7th&20next year. First one was left collarbone. Last year was right one. One does not become more brittle through osmosis. Plus your value chart doesn't work. #14 and #27 cannot be added because they never held both at the same time.
  12. This is 100% correct.
  13. At the same time this post attempts to put light on the trade, it shows the negative to me in the trade. Rodgers is a year older, obviously collar bone fragile. His window is shorter and shorter too. Adding the guessed 90grade talent may be a year too late. And thats hopeful the return pick is top 15. This isnt TT's draft. We dont need to pile in 7+ picks next season when we have 12 this year. We reduced our draft dropping 4, and replacing a 3rd with a 5th. It's tiresome running out there a dozen late 4th rd-undrafted FAs to compete within the division drafting top 20s so often. Need top 60guys now, not next season. Exactly, they should have stayed put and had their pick of Edmunds or James. IMO neither will disappoint, not so sure about Alexander. I understand the need for CB, but Jackson and Oliver are still there, trade up in the 2nd for one of them. They will both be better pros then Alexander will be. There's a reason James and Edmunds fell. Looking back at history, hyped defensive guys that tumbled rarely end up making much of a splash in the league. Typically a case of GMs knowing more than fans and draft "experts". Personally, I would have been excited with either of those guys, but if the Packers had similar grades on James, Edmunds and Alexander, they 100% did the right thing by collecting an extra 1st and getting Alexander. I know you shouldn't draft for need in many cases, but CB is a much bigger need position than safety or ILB.
  14. Here's a link to a draft value calculator: https://www.footballguys.com/pickvalue.htm Per this they'd have to trade Pick 101 (1st pick in the 4th), 133 (4th round compensatory), 147 (5th round from Saints), and 172 (5th round compensatory) to get the 80th pick (which is the 20th pick in the 3rd I think). I think they would include a future year pick or two instead of all four from this year. It wouldn't surprise me to see them deal a player for a pick or to move up, either. Guys like Cobb, Montgomery, Hundley, Rollins, Ryan and even Ha-Ha could potentially be on the block. Granted some of those guys don't hold much value, but could be inserted as a pot sweetener. Hundley was a whisker away from being traded to the Titans for a 5th last month, until they backed out at the last minute, so there are still teams that value him.
  15. I truly believe the "Packer People" crap led the team to back out of acquiring Randy Moss more than a decade ago. Harlan is on record saying he received a lot of calls from fans concerned Moss wouldn't be a "fit". Screw those fans. 2007 Favre with Moss would have had that team in the Super Bowl.
  16. I agree with you on the "Packer People" nonsense. That narrative has always been stupid and annoying, and the fans that adhere to it come off as very "holier than thou". I think a lot of it has come from Bob McGinn blasting the team whenever they acquire any player with any sort of character concern or risk. I see it all over on Packer Twitter any time someone brings up the idea of acquiring Dez Bryant. "We don't need that type of diva attitude on this team, he's not Packer People. Jordy, Jordy, Jordy!" That type of attitude screams of naivety and, really, closeted racism. As far as I'm concerned, any player that can come in and help this team get back to the Super Bowl is "Packer People". I'd love to sign Eric Reid if the Packers don't come out of the draft with a solid safety prospect. Anyone that gets mad about "oh, he kneeled" can go pound sand.
  17. Wisconsin homerism aside, Nelson would be a terrific value in the 5th.
  18. Career vs the Cubs? ummm K, yeah, that makes me feel better. You probably just shouldn't watch the game then, since your mind is already made up on the outcome. Sheesh
  19. The idiots on Packers Twitter calling him TBuck 2.0 make me want to break something. I thought 14 would have been a little high for Alexander, but he does have special ability, and his measureables were very comparable to Ward. He is very physical, which is the exact opposite of Buckley. People also forget that while Buckley was never a star, he played 15 seasons and was a very solid CB for most of that time. His failure and departure from GB wasn't nearly all his fault. The Packers managed to pick up a Top 3 CB and pick up a 2019 1st rounder. That's a huge win.
  20. Agreed. This is a move Thompson NEVER makes. But I love it. Not only is it a potential stud for next year, it is currency for a potential pick-for-player trade THIS year. It's the kind of move forward-thinking teams make. Rodgers wants to play 6-7 more years at least. Making crazy moves to go "ALL IN" for 2018 would be dumb.
  21. Clancy, I know you are enamored by OBP guys, but I think Carroll's absolute ceiling is "utility guy". Erceg, on the other hand, profiles as a legit power-hitting 3B. Of course, at one point, Jeff Cirillo profiled as a utility guy too, so who knows.
  22. Suter has been good in his career versus the Cubs. Won't matter if the bats stay silent, though. Fortunately Darvish has been pretty horrible so far, so this may be a chance to strike.
  23. - Daniels and Corbett are good fits for the Packers zone scheme. Hernandez is a load, but he probably isn't athletic enough. - I've said my piece on Landry. I think he'll be a bust. - Goedert is the most complete TE in the draft, but teams seem to be shying away from blocking-type TEs lately. He would certainly help the running game, but I just don't know if he would be enough of a receiving threat to warrant a 2nd round selection. - Reid is a solid player that could slide in at safety, slot corner or even the perimeter in a pinch. I wouldn't mind this move at all. - Jackson would be incredible value in the 2nd - Kirk is a pure slot guy. Valuable yes, but really not a need for the Packers. I think if they go WR, it's going to be an outside size and/or speed guy.
  24. Guys that still fit the Packers' scheme that could be 2nd round picks: 1. Lorenzo Carter - OLB - Georgia. Fast, which is what the team is looking for. 2. Josh Sweat - OLB - Florida State. Again, fast. You aren't going to see this team invest in slow, undersized pass rushers anymore. 3. Courtland Sutton - WR - SMU. Everything the team is looking for in an outside receiver. Great size, hands, body control and leaping ability. Not a burner, but a 4.54 is plenty good when you are 6'4", 220. 4. D.J. Chark - WR - LSU. Speed, speed and more speed. 5. Equanimeous St. Brown - WR - Notre Dame. Great size/speed prospect that was hurt by poor QB play last year. 6. Brian O'Neill - OT - Pittsburgh. Very athletic tackle, if a tad on the light side. 7. Connor Williams - T/G - Texas. Another athletic guy, but may not have the size to play tackle. Could probably slide in at guard and start for a decade, though. 8. Braden Smith - G - Auburn. Tackle size and decent athleticism, so team may want to try him there first. Very NFL-ready 9. Jessie Bates - CB/S - Wake Forest. Size/speed DB who is jumping up draft boards. Great fit for Pettine's scheme. 10. Josh Jackson - CB - Iowa. Not great measurables, but a great player. Would they go 1-2 with CBs again?
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