Mariners adding 3 or 4 relievers means they add them on 1, 1+1 or 2 year deals and then trade them in the summer if they're performing well. Hader makes less than zero sense for them and isn't going to happen. Right, they make a lot more sense for a Knebel should the Brewers decline to offer and not reach a compromise. I can't imagine Stearns trading Hadar w/o getting somebody that will definately help in 2021. Their offense was horrible and with no answer in the minors, I think he goes after immediate help along with minor lg. help. Hader's market is suppressed because he only has value for teams that think they're a dominant reliever away. That's not Seattle(though they have done dumber things). I haven't followed this thread that closely, but I wonder if Tampa would be a team that may be interested? Obviously it wouldn't be the type of move they'd normally make, but if they fall short...they have a great farm system and Hader's still not going to be cheap enough for them. Hader for Baz, Josh Lowe and Taylor Walls? Haven't seen them mentioned, but it adds a high upside arm, a power bat without a definitive position and a young SS. The 86th ranked prospect and the Rays 5th, 10th and 17th ranked players. The Rays probably wouldn't be interested, but maybe this is there "all in" type move....