Brew crew 92

Turang & Brown & Ashby > Bauer I would do this deal. Turang will be a quality SS in the big leagues, so that will hurt but the others can easily be replaced and Bauer is a horse with great stuff, and with him having a off year so far, we could probably get him for a package close to aforementioned. Bauer Woodruff Nelson Davies > good playoff starters to go with a dominant pen gives us a real chance to win it. Then next year: Bauer Woodruff Nelson Burnes/Anderson Peralta Houser Rasmussen Wilkerson = Championship caliber rotation. Sell high on Davies.

And why is Rasmussen not one of the top 10-20 pitchers?

I know there not the same, that’s why the 35% taken off, and the conservative playoff revenue. Opportunity probably will present itself with our lack of prospect capital and our weaknesses needing to be addressed. Nothing is guaranteed, but we have the only equal of Bellinger in Yelich and a Hader they don’t have. Their 200+ million quality overwhelming depth can’t be matched no matter what we do, but with another bat and an overwhelmingly historic dominant bullpen could give them problems.

Agree, Stearns will get a bat and make sure our pen will be even more dominant than last year’s peak bullpen. We also have Perdomo and Rasmussen that possibly could reinforce with outside additions(givens Smith etc.)

I tihnk we generally do agree. But I'm not comparing him to Jeffress at all. I don't think Jeffress was ever THAT good and he had one absurdly good year. Kimbrel has had 6 or 7 as good seasons and when he's struggled, he's still been great. And I really do think it was just a few weeks. Like I said, Sept he had one bad outing and was dominant in the rest. Now you've got 1/3 of an inning where you gave up 4 Earned and 9 other innings in which you were dominant. He could regress this year though just for the simple fact that it's June 6th and he hasn't been a part of a big league club yet. So in that regard, he is especially risky for the Brewers. We don't need him, and there's always a risk with a guy who starts the year this late. oh yea I for sure wouldn't put JJ in his class. I just meant that the way he ended last year was a sign that something was up with his arm. In a weird way if that was the case with Kimbrel maybe this extended break is a good thing for him to rest it and he'll be strong for the stretch run. For the question about payroll that was just asked to me. It's simply that we have no idea what that break even number is so it's impossible to rip them based on it. But basica common sense in that they have their payroll up what 30% above previous normal highs would lead one to believe they're doing all they can or at least more than they ever have before. And no, me saying that 'you are acting like they're bumbling idiots' is not hyperbole. I believe that is exactly what you're doing here. About that 30% increase in payroll: The brewers had a 66 million operating income last year, NOT including playoff revenue, according to Forbes. So a 30% increase in payroll is not that impressive when we consider that playoff revenue could be as much as 20 million by itself. The 66 million is NOT net income, but if we take away 40% for tax and int. = 40 mil. If playoff revenue is conservatively at 10 mil + 40 mil. Profit = 50 million. 2018 profit > 50 mil. Conservatively. 2019 > 30 million extra payroll > 9 mil. Extra for fox(National) > 8 mil. Extra attendance revenue = 13 million more expenses 27 million profit. Not including playoff revenue if we make the playoffs. Next year extra 8-10 mil for turner/espn. and 8–10 mil extra for local tv deal = 16 mil min. Extra next year. These are estimates, but they are probably close to reality. When people say we can’t compete with the Cubbies and Dodgers payrolls of 200-235 million, ok, yeah, but Stearns & co. doesn’t need a 200 mil. Payroll, but based upon reality of profits for attanasio, spending 10-15 million at the deadline really is NO BIG DEAL.

Another 5+ innings of no runs, it’s getting ridiculous that he’s still down.

It was just one start so you obviously can't read too much into it, but looked much-much different. Just didn't get the fastball movement, he wasn't getting that run...I have to admit, I was hopeful, but this was a little discouraging. Wild with his breaking pitches all night. I want to see him when he has a little more command of the curve and slider. Hoping that’s his next start.

Nice win, none of Guerra Jeffress Hader threw an abundance of pitches, so with the off day Monday, should have a full bullpen tomorrow.

Fantastic, I might have spoken too soon with the failed starter for this year comment. Here’s hoping they send him down to start and mix and get better for his next big league start.

Yes agree, hope that helps his confidence with the bat moving forward.

I’ve had these 2 days to reflect on the Kimbrel to Cubbies signing. I guess the worst part of us not signing him, isn’t that he’s not going to pitch for us, it’s the fact of him pitching for the dreaded Cubbies that makes it tough for me to stomach. I really thought we were going to win the central without a doubt in my mind, and now it’s gonna be a dog fight til the last week or even day. Kimbrel solves their biggest weakness. I’m hoping Stearns truly goes crazy(in a good smart aggressive way)at the deadline and gets all of our non strengths turned into strengths so we can beat out the Cubbies and LAs.

Guerra impressive inning.

Why you're not a baseball GM is beyond me. Such a clear plan, that probably nobody else has tried, to easily win a championship... Details? hah! not needed. Just follow the recipe and miraculously a championship will appear... I'll take this guy seriously when he stops driving the clown car around Brewerfan.... Again the comedian. Ha ha

Stearns & co OBVIOUSLY not anything close to bumbling idiots, that was hyperbole to its ultimate. IF IF IF IF the breakeven payroll this year is 155 million. And next year 170 and the year after 175. But back to this year > IF it’s 155, what’s wrong with a 150 million payroll? Answere that question please, anyone?

Well liked > YES, zero doubt. But secretly, players breathe a sigh of relief to not be around someone struggling THAT MUCH for as long as he has, has to be uncomfortable, what do you say to him?

Ok, I gotta ask, why is it you DO NOT want two legitimate aces, but you're soooo incredibly upset about not signing Kimbrel?? You have shown you give almost zero regard to the future of the Brewers, either fiscally or with with regard to our farm system, just that they win now so that Uecker and Selig get to see them win(which didn't really work out for the Tigers,but lets ignore that). Why yes to Kimbrel, no to Scherzer and Greinke? Kimbrel > no prospects given up, 8 inning game for the next 425 games not including playoffs. Scherzer > prospect capital too high. Greinke > too much money, for two many years. Soft heart for the man that created the brewers mlb franchise, the true biggest of all crew fans, paced thousands of miles sweating out brewer victories, and why is Ueck still talking brewer baseball? I can’t be the only one that wants to hear Ueck call the last out of the series victory. I have stated multiple times the following: When the team is potentially championship caliber > up payroll to break even or beyond. When team is competitive > make a fair profit. When team is rebuilding > cut payroll to nothing and make massive profit, but putting away $ for the large payroll year.

Too much not interested. Also not interested in Greinke. Now EE maybe. But his D at first concerning. Didn't you just suggest earlier tody the Brewers go get Scherzer or Greinke, EE, and possibly a couple others? Forgive me, should have put inblue

Too much not interested. Also not interested in Greinke. Now EE maybe. But his D at first concerning.

Wow, 3 million fans to the park, and we sell? Not happening.

Not having the cash to use later when better options might be available. I think I misunderstood, I meant spend the cash for rental contracts at the deadline or near the deadline.

Well then lets just sit on our hands and do nothing. What the heck? Well at least the overpay would be cash and not prospects, so what’s the downside?

So you don’t think that some of the decisions that have been made lately have been questionable at best? Kinda sounded like the devils advocate answering those questions.

You should probably temper your expectations. Money available is NOT a blank check. I don't know if there can be any expectations that can even be tempered yet, as the market of who is going to be potentially available is clear as mud right now. I mean we can make some guesses, but a lot of the names being thrown about right now are only marginal upgrades, if upgrades at all in my opinion. Brew crew 92, just reading the tone of your post, it appears as if you are either skeptical or you don't expect the Brewers to make upgrades this year. It looks as if you are greasing your own wheels to be mad if/when the upgrades you're expecting don't happen. Am I off base in this assumption? Again, whatever our weaknesses are at the deadline they Will need to be addressed and money will have to be spent because we are not getting rid of our prospect capital in all likelihood. So large rental contracts of good players to solve our weaknesses would be the preferred route. Remember it would only be 1/3 of the contract, so I’m expecting 10 to 15 mil. Should do it.

You should probably temper your expectations. Money available is NOT a blank check. What do you mean? I’m expecting Encarnacion, did you see that 444 foot home run it last night? I’m also expecting one of Zack Grienke or max Scherzer. There’s others but those are A couple off the top of my head.

I’m not gonna lie, but I’ve lost some faith in cc and Stearns decision making abilities over these last couple weeks, and it’s got nothing to do with Craig Kimbrel. Is the reason Hiura is down because of super 2? And if So does that mean we’re not going to extend him? Is cc and or Stearns the only people on earth that thinks we need a 13 man pitching staff that includes Barnes Williams? Why is Peralta starting when we know it’s going to be a short start and heavy bullpen usage, and that’s if it’s a close game? Why is Williams Barnes still on the 40 man?