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Did I NOT already answer all of these questeions? Ignoring how you've reworded this in an obviously sarcastic tone ...you said To whit I responded; You also said; Last sentence; You realize that this conversation didn't start with you, right? I made a comment saying I think SOME of the trade suggestions may be a little overly ambitious on our behalf, comparing it to what SOME fans expected for Hader(two top 15 prospects for example). I listed a couple and you said that's exactly what they should get. But just for clarity real quick, Cartaya(8), Miller(26), Stone(77). That seems reasonably inline with your 1-25(#8), 1-50(#26), 50-100(#77). In fact...it's quite literally that. I agree, the Dodgers likely won't do that...which is how this conversation started. Now, YOU said that would be a fair return, but you weren't the person this comment was initially directed to. I made a general statement; And then you responded with; So I'm not sure what the debate is here, but I feel like I address all these statements. The idea that it'd be just "casual fans," who...-by the way, are the lifeblood of an MLB franchise as it takes more than a small pct of the fan base in a market as small as Milwaukee's to help generate the revenue that would allow them to push the payroll into the 140+ range- Who'd be upset with the Brewers trading Burnes...I disagree with that. I think it's a bit of an arrogant statement calling fans who don't agree with you "casual" fans. It's also, as I've said when I pointed out how the Cleveland Guardians fan base has gone from a fanbase that went from selling out every game over a 7 year period to now being 25th, ahead of only KC, Pitt, Tampa, Miami and Oakland...this depsite the fact that they won 90 games and made the playoffs with the youngest core in MLB and and having a nice stadium...as opposed to Oakland and Tampa who have terrible stadiums. And they were the only ahead of Tampa Bay in attendance and over 1.1M behind Philly in attendance, the next lowest rated team. So yes, I'd say you should PROBABLY give at least some thought to those "casual" fan base. What I DIDN'T say was that you shouldn't trade Burnes. Just that it should be taken into consideration whereas you said; This-This is the part I disagreed with and VERY clearly said; I feel like I made that point when I cited the Brewers fanbase outspending every other fan base in MLB per capita and again, object to the idea that the fans who'd be upset are "casuals." But again, NO, I did not say; I addressed this from EVERY angle and STILL never said you don't trade Burnes and I rejected the "it hurts the future of the team just so it doesn't piss off some "casual fans." Tell me what well run business ANYWHERE becomes one without a completely disregard for a teams paying customers?

I feel like we've gone in this circle a WHOLE lot. What would make it ludicrous? Do you NOT believe he can handle it? Is there any suggestion that Turang is not an elite defender, primarily at SS? So if it makes the Brewers better to go with Adames(3B), Turang(SS) and Wong/Urias(2B) then that's what you should do. As is repeatedly pointed out, the 3B will be lining up close to where the SS plays when they're straight up vs lefties. And if you're right and he'll only be here for 1-2 more years, then it makes more sense to keep Turang at his natural position, to keep Wong/Urias at positions their better suited for and sliding Adames over where he can make use of his big arm and great range. Yeah, he's a quality SS. So he'd almost certainly be a quality 3B...and it'd sold our 3B hole, particularly if Turang is able to just be a .270/.330/.380 type hitter with plus defense who can steal some bases.

I feel like we've gone in this circle a WHOLE lot. What would make it ludicrous? Do you NOT believe he can handle it? Is there any suggestion that Turang is not an elite defender, primarily at SS? So if it makes the Brewers better to go with Adames(3B), Turang(SS) and Wong/Urias(2B) then that's what you should do. As is repeatedly pointed out, the 3B will be lining up close to where the SS plays when they're straight up vs lefties. And if you're right and he'll only be here for 1-2 more years, then it makes more sense to keep Turang at his natural position, to keep Wong/Urias at positions their better suited for and sliding Adames over where he can make use of his big arm and great range. Yeah, he's a quality SS. So he'd almost certainly be a quality 3B...and it'd sold our 3B hole, particularly if Turang is able to just be a .270/.330/.380 type hitter with plus defense who can steal some bases.

Well...in fairness, he's better than you'd have expected a the 49th pick. 1st two years, ~1850 total yards, 13 TDs. Smart to give Fields a big, athletic target, but I'd be more concerned with just drafting OL if I was Chicago. Then again, they may well be looking at another QB in this years draft. How funny would it be if Fields got run out of Chicago after they find themselves in position to draft CJ Stroud or whoever...and the Packers ended up picking him up like Buffalo picked up Trubisky and THEN he hit?

I'm not putting this on Andy Reid. He sent him to rehab, he gave him a job because...well, he(Andy) could afford to and because it provided some structure to his life. This is on a grown man for making a decision. Also should be on those he was drinking with in terms of moral responsibility, not legal, but I blame Britt Reid and him alone. NOW....as an employee of the KC Chiefs, THEY can, should and I'm sure will be sued for damages and they should just do the right F#$%$ thing and give this young girl's family...15M or something to put in a trust handled by her parents or paid out by a company with a fiduciary responsibility and someone who is in charge of approving those payments. From what I understand, she's going to suffer from mental deficits for the rest of her life. HOPEFULLY...that won't be the case given the way medicine is advancing all the time, but gotta deal with reality and the reality is she's going to need caretakers. And the LAST thing you want as a parent is to worry about some 3rd rate facility your daughter has to live in became some grown ass man couldn't make a decision with the millions and millions of dollars his family is worth OR...even if they were were nothing, just take the uber the organization provided. We're WAY too lenient on drunk driving, particularly in this state.

Now...why I came here. I really just meant a good HC who can get this team to buy in defensively. I didn't LITERALLY mean Udoka. Gotta wonder why Boston would let him leave for the Nets. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34925973/sources-nets-moving-hiring-ime-udoka-head-coach He is the perfect coach for this team...and I do hope Ben stays "Charmin Soft," otherwise...I think they pose a very threat once they get healthy and in sync.

AGAIN...it's 6 games after not playing for ~440 days and undergoing back surgery. He was back to back 1st team All NBA defensive PG prior to that ugly ending in Phlly. If the rumors are true and Ime Udoka DOES become this teams HC this year...well, I'd just say it's WAAAY too early to write Simmons off as an elite role player. Particularly, again, on a team he doesn't have to shoot. That said, he did look scared of Giannis. That's also part of what I was saying. He needs to try and play up on Giannis and not let him get to his spot. He's just too strong, his footwork is just too good and he's too dominant on the block for Simmons to handle him down there(though, isn't everyone).

They also have Small. Though Gasser doesn't count as we got back "garbage" for Hader and I'm sure if Gasser is garbage, there's no way a AA starter with a MiLB line of 3.13 ERA in 201 IP and 242Ks as he quickly moved through the farm system, but you obviously write him off after struggling for a couple months(Which is baked into those numbers). I just hate when things are so WILDLY mis-represented. This particular poster(the OP) has gone position by position and talked about both in-house options and potential trade targets. None of it means we will stop emphasizing pitching.

They also have Small. Though Gasser doesn't count as we got back "garbage" for Hader and I'm sure if Gasser is garbage, there's no way a AA starter with a MiLB line of 3.13 ERA in 201 IP and 242Ks as he quickly moved through the farm system, but you obviously write him off after struggling for a couple months(Which is baked into those numbers). I just hate when things are so WILDLY mis-represented. This particular poster(the OP) has gone position by position and talked about both in-house options and potential trade targets. None of it means we will stop emphasizing pitching.

Well, for starters, we didn't replace our GM. Second, there have been NUMEROUS threads before and after Stearns about trying to acquire a bit corner IF bat. So these articles aren't just appearing suddenly a week after Stearns stepped down as POBO. But nope...I think you're the only one who paid attention to how the Brewers played the last few years. We also missed Freddy Peralta, Ashby, Gasser(just 3 high upside pitchers in AAA or already on the MLB roster with high upside). Finally, I missed where anyone said this would be a straight up trade? Burnes for a 3B prospect? Or Burnes AND Woodruff for a 3B prospect? The article is talking about acquiring a 3B and POSSIBLE 3B targets as PART of a trade. It shouldn't need to be explained that we also need to continue to develop pitching. They also have Robert Gasser in AAA. Not that it's REALLY all that relevant. HiA, AA, AAA, what difference does it make if the goal is to develop pitchers? Is the issue that we don't have elite position prospects AND MLB ready pitchers? Who does? A couple teams. And plenty of pitchers go from HiA to AAA and we've not only got several pitchers who could do that over the next 9 months, but we'd OBVIOUSLY look to acquire pitching prospects. Also, the way Stearns acquired all that pitching was by identifying certain traits and then developing it through their pitching lab in AZ. Pitchers with good stuff who went under the radar. Like Misiorowski, Henderson, Wagoner, Woessner, Rudy. Nobody's looking at the Brewers and saying, 'well, that pitching thing didn't work out, lets just ignore that and go and get some 3B.'

Well, for starters, we didn't replace our GM. Second, there have been NUMEROUS threads before and after Stearns about trying to acquire a bit corner IF bat. So these articles aren't just appearing suddenly a week after Stearns stepped down as POBO. But nope...I think you're the only one who paid attention to how the Brewers played the last few years. We also missed Freddy Peralta, Ashby, Gasser(just 3 high upside pitchers in AAA or already on the MLB roster with high upside). Finally, I missed where anyone said this would be a straight up trade? Burnes for a 3B prospect? Or Burnes AND Woodruff for a 3B prospect? The article is talking about acquiring a 3B and POSSIBLE 3B targets as PART of a trade. It shouldn't need to be explained that we also need to continue to develop pitching. They also have Robert Gasser in AAA. Not that it's REALLY all that relevant. HiA, AA, AAA, what difference does it make if the goal is to develop pitchers? Is the issue that we don't have elite position prospects AND MLB ready pitchers? Who does? A couple teams. And plenty of pitchers go from HiA to AAA and we've not only got several pitchers who could do that over the next 9 months, but we'd OBVIOUSLY look to acquire pitching prospects. Also, the way Stearns acquired all that pitching was by identifying certain traits and then developing it through their pitching lab in AZ. Pitchers with good stuff who went under the radar. Like Misiorowski, Henderson, Wagoner, Woessner, Rudy. Nobody's looking at the Brewers and saying, 'well, that pitching thing didn't work out, lets just ignore that and go and get some 3B.'

Well, luckily for the most part, we've got young talent at key positions. OL, Tom, Jones, Walker all look like they could be future starters at OT, Rhyan maybe at OG, Myers and Runyan are solid and young. Hopefully Bakhtiari's knee is getting stronger and he'll be able to stay on the field along with Jenkins(or I may re-think giving him an extension). At WRer Watson is a freak athlete who's had a terrible start. Doubs looks like a hit. Toure even looks like a future contributor. Those cap situations get cleared up quickly. We'll spend a year or two in purgatory and then get out of it. Plus the cap is rising so much, particularly after next year. I'd have given up the picks(I didn't love the idea of a 1st in this upcoming draft when I was easily duped by the infamous "IanRappafart" account, but I'd gladly have parted with a 2 and a 5. Bakh's knee is still obviously troublesome, but once again, he was on the field playing vs Buffalo at an elite level. Just shutting down Von Miller. But we're seeing how this team just CANNOT get on track. You get Bakh back, plays at an elite level...but you're forced to put the undersized Tom in at LG and he just gets thrown around because he's just...a year away(probably better at LT than in a phone box vs more physical DL). Watson comes out and he looks electric...for ONE play. He looks like he's playing at another speed on the field. He just can't seem to stay on it. Lazard's our Goon. Also injured. The defense, they play aggressively and Jaire gets burned, Stokes gives up a big play and Barry wants to go back to go back to quarters D. This team IS as talented as any the Packers have had in a very long time, they just have some very big holes in some very bad areas. I could see those getting cleaned up and they could go on a run...but it's a bit of a stretch at this point. EVERYTHING would be easier if we knew what Rodgers plans were. This team seems like it's a year away. Another year of development from Watson, Doubs, Tom, Enagbare(who looks good)... But, we're stuck in this position where we don't know if we'll have Rodgers next year putting that much more pressure on the young guys right now. Maybe the best thing is the Packers finish up with a pick in the top ~12-15, Rodgers retires, we go out and get one of the dozen QBs with big time NFL potential and re-load. Purge Bakh, Rodgers from the cap this year and let the young talent grow together. Or maybe they go on a run and Rodgers wants to come back and we add more talent around Rodgers next year. And maybe this team goes on a run and wins a Super Bowl...which as far fletched as it seems right now, probably not as unlikely as Packers fans think at the moment(though pretty far fetched).

So many rumors, it's hard to know where they're all coming from, but that seemed to be a consistent one. Packers had the best offer on the table for Claypool to start the day...the Bears(for some asinine reason) came in and out-bid them. The Bears need those picks to just...draft all the offensive linemen. Spend a year just using 9 picks on the OL. Another was that Denver wanted a 2nd and a 5th for Jerry Jeudy. I personally think if you were willing to give up a 2 for Claypool, Jeudy makes at least as much sense. He's more the type of WRer we need. There are questions about Claypools...work ethic/ego, plus, he's big, fast(not a good run blocker apparently...at least not consistently). But more than anything, he's just a little redundant. What we needed was a quicker WRer with good to great route running ability. That's DJ Moore, Bradin Cooks...and then Jerry Jeudy who has a couple years left @2M in '22(obviously about 1M now prorated) and ~2.6 in '23 with the 5th year option looming.

He actually slipped mine as well. I thought Devers was part of the '25 FA class and I was going to say he MAY have more value...and then when I went to look at that class, no Devers(24) but Soto.

He actually slipped mine as well. I thought Devers was part of the '25 FA class and I was going to say he MAY have more value...and then when I went to look at that class, no Devers(24) but Soto.

Those statements are inherently at odds. They should have absolutely "zero regard" for fan reaction? Brewers fans spending more per capita than ANY other fan base in MLB is one of the things that allows the Brewers in the miniscule market they've got to spend as much as they do(cheap as you may believe Attnasio to believe, look at the Pirates, the Os, the Guardians, the As...all the other teams in similar markets), that is absolutely part of what's best for this organization. Look at the Guardians. I remember how they had this ridiculous sellout record goin...it was like 588 days(I don't remember, it's a long list). They've really hurt their relationship with their fan base. Some of that may just be fans complacent with 90 win seasons and some of the luster having worn off on that, but they also don't develop connections with the players as they once did. I'm not saying you don't trade Burnes and Woodruff, but maintaining a good relationship with your fanbase is absolutely relevant and important. I'm talking about deals like Grayson Rodriguez and Jackson Holliday or Bobby Miller, Vargas, Stone and Pepiot or Cartaya. I'm not going after anyone's trade suggestions because I've suggested pretty much that Dodgers trade(it's actually my favorite in theory, a 1B prospect and then 3 power righties who are MLB ready. One who could plug into the rotation and then 2 more who could also slide into the rotation or who could come in and throw 2-3-4 innings out of the pen. I just think we're are probably expecting a little bit too much back. Sure, we're in the sweet spot in theory. Though maybe you run into a team like Seattle that's desperate for a playoff run for their fanbase(Baltimore) or the LAA start out, they get hot this year and they're a pitcher away from contending...and they're willing to pay more to get that ace. I also think we SHOULD expect a kings ransom because Burnes is so valuable. Juan Soto says hi! I'm thinking he slipped your mind...or maybe you disagree? Not really important as the larger point is that Burnes has immense value. Walker Buehler is an example of this if you throw in injury with regression. Buehler was in a class right with Burnes just last year. 6.6 WAR vs 5.6. Now I saw someone propose a trade of Adames and Burnes that included Buehler and someone said there was "no point" in adding Buehler. While I don't agree with that, it shows how quickly a player can lose value. That said, if Burnes stays healthy, I'm not sure you can quantify how much value he loses. I don't know if it's 50% because he's got 50% less service time....why? Because...as pointed out, the game isn't played on paper. Teams get desperate. Again, just the two teams I mentioned...or maybe the Twins who've been getting more and more aggressive. The Jays might be a team that's got this dominant lineup but lacking an ace. The point I'm making is that I understand both sides of this. Part of me wants to trade Burnes now and I'd be more than happy to get back....4 pitchers with elite stuff. Try and identify the next Steven Strider(Which may be someone like Bobby Miller) and a couple other elite arms. But; This isn't true if it gets the Brewer to the World Series or wins them a World Series. I don't think there is a significant difference in trade value from trading him this winter vs this deadline, so maybe see how things play out. Lets say...hypothetically, Frelick/Turang looks like a .280.360/.420 type hitter with elite defense, maybe Yelich comes back and he gets hot and spends the off-seasons working on his core, his back, he gets a little bit of that bat speed back and he hads some loft to the ball again(his exit velo(90%) and hard hit rate(98%) have both been exceptional, just mostly on the ground). Maybe Uribe becomes a Emanuel Clase, Peralta gets back to his 2021 status, it clicks for Ashby and HE becomes a legitimate #2/3 pitcher. Lauer throws 180IP and does so at a high level, Houser stays healthy. Adames doesn't have the abnormally low BABIP and he retains the power without the fluke, career low BA/OBP. I don't disagree with anyone in this thread and this is a case where no matter what we do(unlike with the Packers today) I'll understand whatever they move and the rationale for it. But it's just a bit more complicated and nuanced, and we should look at it from other teams perspectives. If you're Texas, do you really want to give up Jung, Carter, Lieter and Foscue? It's gonna be a very difficult decision and you're gonna piss of fans and you're going take a risk either way. Lets just extend him and render the whole discussion as moot! (This is like half blue).

Those statements are inherently at odds. They should have absolutely "zero regard" for fan reaction? Brewers fans spending more per capita than ANY other fan base in MLB is one of the things that allows the Brewers in the miniscule market they've got to spend as much as they do(cheap as you may believe Attnasio to believe, look at the Pirates, the Os, the Guardians, the As...all the other teams in similar markets), that is absolutely part of what's best for this organization. Look at the Guardians. I remember how they had this ridiculous sellout record goin...it was like 588 days(I don't remember, it's a long list). They've really hurt their relationship with their fan base. Some of that may just be fans complacent with 90 win seasons and some of the luster having worn off on that, but they also don't develop connections with the players as they once did. I'm not saying you don't trade Burnes and Woodruff, but maintaining a good relationship with your fanbase is absolutely relevant and important. I'm talking about deals like Grayson Rodriguez and Jackson Holliday or Bobby Miller, Vargas, Stone and Pepiot or Cartaya. I'm not going after anyone's trade suggestions because I've suggested pretty much that Dodgers trade(it's actually my favorite in theory, a 1B prospect and then 3 power righties who are MLB ready. One who could plug into the rotation and then 2 more who could also slide into the rotation or who could come in and throw 2-3-4 innings out of the pen. I just think we're are probably expecting a little bit too much back. Sure, we're in the sweet spot in theory. Though maybe you run into a team like Seattle that's desperate for a playoff run for their fanbase(Baltimore) or the LAA start out, they get hot this year and they're a pitcher away from contending...and they're willing to pay more to get that ace. I also think we SHOULD expect a kings ransom because Burnes is so valuable. Juan Soto says hi! I'm thinking he slipped your mind...or maybe you disagree? Not really important as the larger point is that Burnes has immense value. Walker Buehler is an example of this if you throw in injury with regression. Buehler was in a class right with Burnes just last year. 6.6 WAR vs 5.6. Now I saw someone propose a trade of Adames and Burnes that included Buehler and someone said there was "no point" in adding Buehler. While I don't agree with that, it shows how quickly a player can lose value. That said, if Burnes stays healthy, I'm not sure you can quantify how much value he loses. I don't know if it's 50% because he's got 50% less service time....why? Because...as pointed out, the game isn't played on paper. Teams get desperate. Again, just the two teams I mentioned...or maybe the Twins who've been getting more and more aggressive. The Jays might be a team that's got this dominant lineup but lacking an ace. The point I'm making is that I understand both sides of this. Part of me wants to trade Burnes now and I'd be more than happy to get back....4 pitchers with elite stuff. Try and identify the next Steven Strider(Which may be someone like Bobby Miller) and a couple other elite arms. But; This isn't true if it gets the Brewer to the World Series or wins them a World Series. I don't think there is a significant difference in trade value from trading him this winter vs this deadline, so maybe see how things play out. Lets say...hypothetically, Frelick/Turang looks like a .280.360/.420 type hitter with elite defense, maybe Yelich comes back and he gets hot and spends the off-seasons working on his core, his back, he gets a little bit of that bat speed back and he hads some loft to the ball again(his exit velo(90%) and hard hit rate(98%) have both been exceptional, just mostly on the ground). Maybe Uribe becomes a Emanuel Clase, Peralta gets back to his 2021 status, it clicks for Ashby and HE becomes a legitimate #2/3 pitcher. Lauer throws 180IP and does so at a high level, Houser stays healthy. Adames doesn't have the abnormally low BABIP and he retains the power without the fluke, career low BA/OBP. I don't disagree with anyone in this thread and this is a case where no matter what we do(unlike with the Packers today) I'll understand whatever they move and the rationale for it. But it's just a bit more complicated and nuanced, and we should look at it from other teams perspectives. If you're Texas, do you really want to give up Jung, Carter, Lieter and Foscue? It's gonna be a very difficult decision and you're gonna piss of fans and you're going take a risk either way. Lets just extend him and render the whole discussion as moot! (This is like half blue).

LOL...what are you talking about? Excuse for who? Who am I meant to be "defending" or excusing for anything? They traded two stars and got back what appears to be a terrible package thus far. Strider just threw 94 IP last year('21) and struck out 153, so guessing the Braves weren't trading him(regardless of where he was ranked on whatever list you're going off). Harris was their future CFer and top prospect after Pache had lost most of his deal. Pache had gone from a top ~10 overall prospect to ~80 to not in the top 100 as he'd been terrible the first couple years in ATL. Basically Lewis Brinson, a catcher/LFer with a 40 hit tool and 35 speed and very little else. For Matt Olson -Ryan Cusik +7ERA in AA -Joey Estes 4.55 ERA in HiA(A's 13th ranked prospect) -Christian Pache -.6 WAR(-1.4 for his career) -Langeliers-The one prospect who looks decent. Same for Chapman. They got back...what, -1.5 WAR and nobody ranked in the top 100. Kirby Smart(28) -.7 WAR, Kevin Smith(26) .3 WAR .180/.216/.302 for a whopping .516 OPS Zach Lowe(26) -1.1 War Hoglund-Who's thrown 8 innings of professional baseball, all this year. What "excuse" do I need to make? What part of what I said isn't true? They traded two GG corner IFers who had 2 years left of team control, two players who'd gotten MVP votes and got maybe one player back who looks like he could/maybe be a contributor this year...and HE put up a .218/.261/.430 line in 40 games. That's the BEST looking player they got back for those two stars. Did YOU make these trades? Is there some reason why you find this to be a personal affront to you?

He hadn't played in like 440 days. Simmons is just about a perfect fit on that team. Put Simmons on the floor with Kyrie/Harris/O'Neal/KD and they can score, shoot and they've got size to defend Giannis, they can swap out O'Neal and Harris for Claxton and Curry and add more size and shooting. Simmons gets in shape and he doesn't have to do anything on offense. KD and Kyrie taking 15-20 shots a night with Harris and Curry getting their 5 3's each is plenty. But that means Simmons has to work his way back into shape and get the rust off. If he can't make it work on this team...especially when TJ Warren, Seth Curry come back, Joe Harris who missed last year as well rounds back into shape...then he won't be able to make it work anywhere. But if he just gets back to where he was in Philly and they have him come out and actually defend Giannis instead of ceding ground to him the whole possession...something a real HC should help with, that's still a very dangerous team once they get some actual regular season time together. And provided they get someone who can actually coach rather than say "just go play some pickup ball."

Awe...this sucks. I LOVED Steve Nash as the HC of the Nets! Without him, they may actually figure out how to play and Ime Udoka this team! No team with KD, Kyrie, Simmons(I know he can't shoot, but he can defend, rebound and pass), a couple of guys who shoot the 3 ball both in volume and in the low to mid 40% range, and have very solid depth should look as bad as this team does.

Yeah, I'm starting to wonder if maybe we're doing what some fans did with Hader. I got into a Twitter debate with a fan at the start of this season in which he stated we'd get "at least 4 top 100 prospects" back for Hader. I don't think 4 top 100 or 150 prospects is expecting too much for Burnes, but a lot of us are naturally just looking at teams who appear to be likely invested in getting an ace and picking 3 or 4 of their top 5-10 prospects. A team would have to be pretty desperate. And that may well happen, but if it doesn't, we should just hold onto them.

Yeah, I'm starting to wonder if maybe we're doing what some fans did with Hader. I got into a Twitter debate with a fan at the start of this season in which he stated we'd get "at least 4 top 100 prospects" back for Hader. I don't think 4 top 100 or 150 prospects is expecting too much for Burnes, but a lot of us are naturally just looking at teams who appear to be likely invested in getting an ace and picking 3 or 4 of their top 5-10 prospects. A team would have to be pretty desperate. And that may well happen, but if it doesn't, we should just hold onto them.

The guys name DID say Ian Rappaport...it just clearly didn't have the blue check. Also...not for nothing, but we could definitely use Gordon IF Kylin Hill isn't healthy. The two combined cost ~3.5M the rest of the year...so it made sense. Go ahead and delete the thread.

What the hell...it said Ian Rappaport. It JUST said Rappaport! DAMN I feel like a moron. Well that sucks...

I doubt they will...and they should get more back than Chapman or Olson. Atlanta's farm system had been emptied out with young players filling up their MLB roster.