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  1. UpandIn
    I thought it was gonna take a turn... I personally think Turang is similar to Turner...and THAT is where he was going. I thought it was a little misdirection. Could Turang be our Trea Turner(a similar type player, I'm not saying he's going to be as good). I didn't think it was just a "lets spend 35M a year to sign a player to replace our best player and one of our top prospects! Yeah...small market!"
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    I thought it was gonna take a turn... I personally think Turang is similar to Turner...and THAT is where he was going. I thought it was a little misdirection. Could Turang be our Trea Turner(a similar type player, I'm not saying he's going to be as good). I didn't think it was just a "lets spend 35M a year to sign a player to replace our best player and one of our top prospects! Yeah...small market!"
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    Yeah....I'd much rather have Contreras. I'd rather have Judge as well. I don't really see Contreras being a realistic target though. He wants 5/100 and given the state of catching...that doesn't seem like a reach.
  4. UpandIn
    Yeah....I'd much rather have Contreras. I'd rather have Judge as well. I don't really see Contreras being a realistic target though. He wants 5/100 and given the state of catching...that doesn't seem like a reach.
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    It's hard to sift through all the contradictions. It's funny that Lauer is a #3...but it'd hurt so much to lose him? Renfroe is going to be non-tendered...so then he'd already be gone, right? And no, I didn't say that was a good idea. If they're going to non-tender Renfroe like you're say and if they bring in Abreu over Tellez, that's a pretty big upgrade. You're the one who came up with this either or all on your own. I simply pointed out we wouldn't just be losing all three players for nothing.
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    It's hard to sift through all the contradictions. It's funny that Lauer is a #3...but it'd hurt so much to lose him? Renfroe is going to be non-tendered...so then he'd already be gone, right? And no, I didn't say that was a good idea. If they're going to non-tender Renfroe like you're say and if they bring in Abreu over Tellez, that's a pretty big upgrade. You're the one who came up with this either or all on your own. I simply pointed out we wouldn't just be losing all three players for nothing.
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    LOL...of course. Beer and Hot Dogs. I don't need a shirtless calendar from my team. I don't care if you're fat if you can hit. I wasn't really bothered by Prince or CC's physique!
  8. UpandIn
    LOL...of course. Beer and Hot Dogs. I don't need a shirtless calendar from my team. I don't care if you're fat if you can hit. I wasn't really bothered by Prince or CC's physique!
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    OR it could just mean the Brewers are taking the additional revenue from revenue sharing to spend on Abreu. Or they're pushing their payroll up a bit as Attanasio said they were capable of last year. BUT, lets so you do hypothetically trade Renfroe, Lauer and Tellez. You're not just losing those 3-4 players. It's not like you'd non-tender them. Renfroe-Wiemer gets into the lineup, adds much better defense, speed. Likely falls well short of his offensive output, but you still come out ahead with Jose Abreu, pretty much the perfect fit on the market who's at all reasonable. Lauer-You don't have an in-house replacement, but 2 years left of a #3 caliber pitcher would...or SHOULD definitely net you at least one valuable high leverage reliever at the very least. Rowdy-You get Abreu to replace him, and you get back...I don't know, a lottery ticket.
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    OR it could just mean the Brewers are taking the additional revenue from revenue sharing to spend on Abreu. Or they're pushing their payroll up a bit as Attanasio said they were capable of last year. BUT, lets so you do hypothetically trade Renfroe, Lauer and Tellez. You're not just losing those 3-4 players. It's not like you'd non-tender them. Renfroe-Wiemer gets into the lineup, adds much better defense, speed. Likely falls well short of his offensive output, but you still come out ahead with Jose Abreu, pretty much the perfect fit on the market who's at all reasonable. Lauer-You don't have an in-house replacement, but 2 years left of a #3 caliber pitcher would...or SHOULD definitely net you at least one valuable high leverage reliever at the very least. Rowdy-You get Abreu to replace him, and you get back...I don't know, a lottery ticket.
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    The 100MPH fastball you or...Damulle posted on Twitter along with the 88 MPH slider, that was enough right there to protect that guy. His performance in the Fall League aside. But that Fastball moved almost like a Changeup. Reading the comments...there were people who legitimately asked if that was his change. If he can throw 100 like that and he's toying with other grips, it's just a lock, you have to protect him. Right now, the one area we could improve this team the most...IMO, is the BP. If they just brought back most of the same team, add some of the young prospects and then can find 2-3 overpowering relievers, I'll be happy. Ecreg was another guy I thought might get protected, just because of his stuff, but...not to be.
  12. UpandIn
    The 100MPH fastball you or...Damulle posted on Twitter along with the 88 MPH slider, that was enough right there to protect that guy. His performance in the Fall League aside. But that Fastball moved almost like a Changeup. Reading the comments...there were people who legitimately asked if that was his change. If he can throw 100 like that and he's toying with other grips, it's just a lock, you have to protect him. Right now, the one area we could improve this team the most...IMO, is the BP. If they just brought back most of the same team, add some of the young prospects and then can find 2-3 overpowering relievers, I'll be happy. Ecreg was another guy I thought might get protected, just because of his stuff, but...not to be.
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    Yeah...I don't understand that one. Devanney? Is it too much 3B depth in your MiLB system? But I'm glad they kept Uribe, Robinson...I was sweating out Turang, not sure if he'd get added, but beyond that...Devanney over Singleton made a lot of sense. If Singleton has a good STing, you can create a spot on the 40.
  14. UpandIn
    Yeah...I don't understand that one. Devanney? Is it too much 3B depth in your MiLB system? But I'm glad they kept Uribe, Robinson...I was sweating out Turang, not sure if he'd get added, but beyond that...Devanney over Singleton made a lot of sense. If Singleton has a good STing, you can create a spot on the 40.
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    I didn't say they shouldn't. I said they shouldn't trade Wiemer for Diaz. 6 years of Wiemer and his upside vs a 1B/DH. We're gonna need a couple of RHed hitters in this lineup, and preferably a few who hit for power. And you could thrown Abreu in there. He's not re-signing in Chicago(at least the South Side, rumor is the team on the North side my want him...for some reason). He's the perfect fit...revenues are up, no better time than to go get a guy who fits this lineup perfectly than right now when the Brewers are talking about being all in. Maybe he wants to stay in Chicago and it's not an option. Anyway, this excercise is you post a proposal, people comment on it. I commented I wouldn't trade that much for Diaz. 2 years of Diaz. Have to hope he maintains his play from last year which was by far a career year...and like I said, he's the type of hitter we could use, I just wouldn't do it for a guy like Wiemer who could fill in in any OF spot, DH...and probably 1B at some point in the future for a guy who hits for very little power while being primarily a 1B/DH.
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    As I said, he doesn't have his speed, but they're similar in every other area scouts grade. Hit tool, power, arm, field...both guys who walk at a high rate, also a lot of swing and miss. There are almost no perfect comps. Maybe Hunter Pence is a better one, but Buhner was traded for a guy who put up a .400 OBP in limited action and looked similar to Diaz before becoming a fixture in RF for the Mariners for almost 15 years, so I went with him. Hart, Pence...fine. But Geoff Jenkins? Also, I don't even know how to begin to use Sammy Sosa as a comp. He's like a cartoon character who came up as a shorter, skinny, 160LB OFer and then his head swelled about a quarter inch less than Bonds.
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    So athletic attributes aren't physical attributes to you? If a player is 6'7 vs 5'11, you don't consider that at all? That's...a strange take and contrary to most definitions, but alright.
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    LOL...probably because that's how you compare prospects, by their physical attributes. Speed, power, their hit tool, build. These are the ways scouts compare players. It was also the basis for MY comparison when you disagreed and then compared Wiemer to Hart. That had nothing to do with the fact that they were both tall, lanky OFers? Of course it did. But you don't use stats, you don't use physical attributes...you mix in left handed hitters with right handed hitters. How DO you actually draw comparisons other than scouting reports?
  19. UpandIn
    BTV has Tyrone Taylor similar to Wiemer per BTV. It's obviously not perfect, but that's a pretty significant gap in value...IMO. I suspect most Brewers fans would much rather see Taylor traded than Wiemer.
  20. UpandIn
    I guess I can see the Hart comp...they're both tall, athletic at the same point, but Wiemer's power and arm make Buhner a more accurate comp IMO. But tall, lanky, sure. I can see Hart. But Sosa, Vaughn and Jenkins(especially a LHed Jenkins)? What part of their profiles are similar? They all had power I guess, but obviously so too did Buhner. Wiemer is 6'5 215, has a 70 arm, 60 power, some swing and miss. Sosa was 6' 165 coming into the big leagues(before the steroids). Buhner had one of the strongest arms from RF I've seen...none of those players are even close to Wiemer's defensive profile. Offensively, a guy who has a questionable hit tool, but big power, good plate discipline and strikes out a bit, that kinda fits a lot of players. Hunter Pence is a comp used for Wiemer and Buhner was a comp used for Pence. Obviously none are exact, but you're talking about 3 guys who are about 6 feet and bear little resemblance to Wiemer's athletic attributes.
  21. UpandIn
    I was gonna guess Ivan Rodriguez...but you said 4th best career, so...Doug Henry? I remember he got ROY votes for the Brewers that year...or there about. Obviously Pat Listach was the ROY that year.
  22. UpandIn
    I was gonna guess Ivan Rodriguez...but you said 4th best career, so...Doug Henry? I remember he got ROY votes for the Brewers that year...or there about. Obviously Pat Listach was the ROY that year.
  23. UpandIn
    Yeah, I don't like giving up Mitchell for Jansen myself, but I think that's good value. And I'd be willing to trade Ruiz Diaz for Wiemer? That VERY well may look like a steal in 2 years, but it could also be like trading Ken Phelps and his .400 OBP for Jay Buhner. THAT is a bad deal. He's clearly better than what we currently have, but I'm not giving up Wiemer and Hiura. I mean...I suspect he'll be swapped out for a reliever or something anyway, as much as I'd like to give him another run and hope he can get it together, but Wiemer has Jay Buhner like traits. He's built like an OLB and he's got a cannon and he's produced at AAA. Diaz is the type of hitter we need, but not for Wiemer. I'm also not counting on Chourio as this lock just yet. We've got a nice group of OFers, but Frelick is the only player I think is close to a sure thing in this current OF. In a year from now I'd be good with trading, but just because we have a surplus doesn't mean we HAVE to trade from it.
  24. UpandIn
    Glenn Braggs or Rickie Weeks? Weeks looked more like a RB, Braggs looked like an OLBer. Of course, Vogelbach looked like a Tony Siragusa type DT!
  25. UpandIn
    Glenn Braggs or Rickie Weeks? Weeks looked more like a RB, Braggs looked like an OLBer. Of course, Vogelbach looked like a Tony Siragusa type DT!
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