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  1. Wiemer could have been bothered by his thumb injury for longer than he let on. So, I’m more interested in his time with Nashville when we know he was 100% healthy. Mitchell has only played in 160 professional games, including 28 with the big-club, so looking forward to him hopefully staying healthy so we can see what he can do over a full season.
  2. A Development staff that’s been revamped under Stearns/Arnold over the last 2-3 years. A development staff that has helped Mitchell and Wiemer lower their K rate and improve their walk rate. Turang start to realize some power the second-half of last season. Look at all the hitters that improved as the minors season played out. I think every one of our top 8-9 position players finished the year strong in the box. I don’t think it’s an accident.
  3. A Development staff that’s been revamped under Stearns/Arnold over the last 2-3 years. A development staff that has helped Mitchell and Wiemer lower their K rate and improve their walk rate. Turang start to realize some power the second-half of last season. Look at all the hitters that improved as the minors season played out. I think every one of our top 8-9 position players finished the year strong in the box. I don’t think it’s an accident.
  4. I suppose I just have more faith in this organization as a whole than most. I see nothing but solid departments important to the long-term success of this franchise.
  5. I suppose I just have more faith in this organization as a whole than most. I see nothing but solid departments important to the long-term success of this franchise.
  6. Of course not, but that’s why we keep all 4 of our big-league ready OF’s until we figure out who the keepers are. And I did say “early returns” with minor league hitting development since they’ve made numerous changes in that realm over the last 3 or so years with improvements all throughout the system with their hitters, especially this season.
  7. Of course not, but that’s why we keep all 4 of our big-league ready OF’s until we figure out who the keepers are. And I did say “early returns” with minor league hitting development since they’ve made numerous changes in that realm over the last 3 or so years with improvements all throughout the system with their hitters, especially this season.
  8. Me too, which is why I’m really hoping Arnold tries to mimic Cleveland with regards to the trade-off of the non-extentionables for young controllable talent. Now that we have a proven pipeline of amateur talent procurement, a proven PDS, and what is looking like, at least with early returns being positive, an improving position player & hitting development system, the trading-off of our non-extensionables is the missing piece to perpetual contention.
  9. Me too, which is why I’m really hoping Arnold tries to mimic Cleveland with regards to the trade-off of the non-extentionables for young controllable talent. Now that we have a proven pipeline of amateur talent procurement, a proven PDS, and what is looking like, at least with early returns being positive, an improving position player & hitting development system, the trading-off of our non-extensionables is the missing piece to perpetual contention.
  10. Drury at 2 and $5/$6M would be a steal, which is also why I believe that to be too low.
  11. I should have been more specific in my trade return package for Burnes. I should have stated top 10-25 prospect, which eliminates a Cartaya, my mistake. And your right, after re-reading your post you did question some of the return packages as being too much, which I agree with, again my mistake. And while I understand your take on not alienating the fan-base, I’m of the belief that when the fans see the athletes this organization will be installing throughout the lineup the next couple of years, and the excitement of watching players running wild both in the field and on the bases, they’ll come to AmFam in droves for the foreseeable future.
  12. I should have been more specific in my trade return package for Burnes. I should have stated top 10-25 prospect, which eliminates a Cartaya, my mistake. And your right, after re-reading your post you did question some of the return packages as being too much, which I agree with, again my mistake. And while I understand your take on not alienating the fan-base, I’m of the belief that when the fans see the athletes this organization will be installing throughout the lineup the next couple of years, and the excitement of watching players running wild both in the field and on the bases, they’ll come to AmFam in droves for the foreseeable future.
  13. So what’s the alternative? Hold Burnes another year when you know it hurts the future of the team just so it doesn’t piss-off some casual fans? And I said a realistic trade return this offseason for Burnes would be 1 top 25, 1 top 50 and 1 top 100, not Cartaya, Miller and Stone, which the Dodgers likely won’t do, or 4 pitchers with elite stuff.
  14. So what’s the alternative? Hold Burnes another year when you know it hurts the future of the team just so it doesn’t piss-off some casual fans? And I said a realistic trade return this offseason for Burnes would be 1 top 25, 1 top 50 and 1 top 100, not Cartaya, Miller and Stone, which the Dodgers likely won’t do, or 4 pitchers with elite stuff.
  15. Paper is all that should matter. Arnold & co need to do what’s best for the organization with absolutely zero regard for potential fan reaction. Attanasio is no dummy, he’s smart enough to want what’s best for the team. A top 3 SP in the game shopped to the highest bidder will return the talent needed to not just extend the “bites at the apple” contention strategy, but improve the overall talent level of this organization beyond anything we’d get by holding Burnes for another year. Realistically Burnes returns — 1 top 25, 1 top 50, 1 top 100. With at least 2 of them big-league ready. That’s a fair return. That’s also a return more valuable to this team at this time than keeping Burnes for this coming season.
  16. Paper is all that should matter. Arnold & co need to do what’s best for the organization with absolutely zero regard for potential fan reaction. Attanasio is no dummy, he’s smart enough to want what’s best for the team. A top 3 SP in the game shopped to the highest bidder will return the talent needed to not just extend the “bites at the apple” contention strategy, but improve the overall talent level of this organization beyond anything we’d get by holding Burnes for another year. Realistically Burnes returns — 1 top 25, 1 top 50, 1 top 100. With at least 2 of them big-league ready. That’s a fair return. That’s also a return more valuable to this team at this time than keeping Burnes for this coming season.
  17. But that’s the type of return this team would likely get if they shopped Burnes this offseason, especially from a team like the Dodgers who would have a leg-up with extending Burnes, imo. This offseason is the sweet-spot for trading Burnes and maximizing return. Higher probability for the trading team to extend him 2 years out from FA vs 1. Last year, at 3 years control, how many teams would have had the prospect capital to trade for Burnes? or even if they did, would have given that much up? This team needs to acquire big-league ready starting pitching prospects to replace Burnes, Woody and Lauer before OD/‘25. Waiting another year puts injury and or regression into the equation. Even with all things being equal, the return shrinks to less than half due to Burnes higher ‘23 salary. For all of these reasons I believe the team trades Burnes this offseason.
  18. But that’s the type of return this team would likely get if they shopped Burnes this offseason, especially from a team like the Dodgers who would have a leg-up with extending Burnes, imo. This offseason is the sweet-spot for trading Burnes and maximizing return. Higher probability for the trading team to extend him 2 years out from FA vs 1. Last year, at 3 years control, how many teams would have had the prospect capital to trade for Burnes? or even if they did, would have given that much up? This team needs to acquire big-league ready starting pitching prospects to replace Burnes, Woody and Lauer before OD/‘25. Waiting another year puts injury and or regression into the equation. Even with all things being equal, the return shrinks to less than half due to Burnes higher ‘23 salary. For all of these reasons I believe the team trades Burnes this offseason.
  19. I don’t see them turning down the type of return they will get for Burnes this offseason. It will virtually assure the team of extending their contention timeframe, which imo, seems to be their overriding goal.
  20. I don’t see them turning down the type of return they will get for Burnes this offseason. It will virtually assure the team of extending their contention timeframe, which imo, seems to be their overriding goal.
  21. The Brewers rarely do what we think they’ll do. Opportunistic could also mean trading Burnes this offseason because we will be blown away by trade offers since an ace starter is the most valuable commodity in baseball and by a lot, and 2 years of said commodity is worth more than twice what 1 year is worth.
  22. The Brewers rarely do what we think they’ll do. Opportunistic could also mean trading Burnes this offseason because we will be blown away by trade offers since an ace starter is the most valuable commodity in baseball and by a lot, and 2 years of said commodity is worth more than twice what 1 year is worth.
  23. I mentioned this in another thread, but I don’t want to trade-off all of our high-end assets this offseason. Burnes would be it, because the timing is right that, imo, he can go and we can still contend this year, we just need to replace his innings with a veteran starter like Quintana. We are a year behind Cleveland as far as young talent at the big-league level AND farm system depth. They contended with rookies and youngins all over the field, with strong veteran pitching. So can we. Our only real weakness in our organization is a big-one — big-armed starting pitching prospects at the upper-levels of the farm. This can be solved with trades of Burnes this offseason and Lauer next offseason and a Woodruff extension or trade, next offseason. I’m confident in the continued pipeline of amateur talent procurement systems this team has, so once the big-arm upper-level prospect deficit is fixed, this franchise should be set to contend for a decade plus.
  24. I don’t believe in the Burnes/Woodruff window. I don’t believe in windows period. I think this franchise can mimic Cleveland, and contend on a yearly basis without rebuids. I don’t want to trade-off all of WA, BW, CB & EL this offseason and reset. I want to trade or non-tender Renfroe, let Wong go, and trade Burnes. Let our incredibly talented OF’s develop at the big-league level, Turang at 2B, buy an innings-inning starter and use Burnes to add the super-high-end near big-league ready pitching lacking in this organization so we can extend our starting pitching power far into the future. With the rules changes, next year it will be easier to break-in our speedy and athletic rookies. This team can use the money savings to buy a C, and a HL arm for the bullpen.
  25. LOL. No I’m not Garrett Mitchell, a friend or relative of GM or know GM personally. I only want to be taken at my word with regards to GM. I just don’t want him traded this offseason, especially for a C with only 2 years of control. To eventually win a WS this team will need to accumulate an enormous amount of young, controllable talent, not trade it off for only 2 years of a player, no matter who it is. When the team has a talent like Mitchell, he should become untradable UNTIL the team thinks he won’t approach his ceiling. If the team believes that to be the case now then fine, trade him in the right deal, but I’m guessing they don’t think that.
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