BrewerFan

We'll see...look at their schedule. Look at the losses they've had. They could EASILY be a 6 win team...right now. They just got Adams, Reddick...and a weak schedule.

Yeah, we're not losing the Brewers. Though...imagine if Wisconsin never gave away Chicago and the UP. We'd have the 2nd largest or at least the 3rd biggest...but then we'd probably all be Cubs fans. I'd rather have a 120M payroll and be a fan of the Brewers. Why are we talking about moving? Benefit in the long run=more money. This team is owned by wealthy people. They can go a couple of years without a profit...or sell the team to Jimmy and Dee. They want to get into Baseball and own a Milwaukee team already. Or...just keep doing what you're doing. I think the Brewers are overcoming a whole lot at the moment.

Yeah, but Nashville has a lot of money and is one of those cities where you'd have a region that would adopt the team...I think. I'm not sharing the Brewers(even for...well, maybe for Soto)...but if you're an owner, Nashville would be an awfully enticing location. It's where I thought the Brewers would go in the...unlikely event they didn't work out the "AmFam" deal.

I know this sounds nuts, but I think they'll be in the playoff race EOY. Might not get in, but 10-7 is plausible, 9-8 would be my bet.

How about a HC who kids a FG after using one of his 3 TOs on 3rd down-down 11 points with 39 seconds left from the ~10? Why WOULDN'T you try and get the TD there?

Eh, I'm not too worried about this. I wanted to keep the pitching in place from the AZ...lab or whatever, to Hook. I'm also skeptical that the OF defense is going to be impacted. Berry was respected...I'd have preferred to keep him, but I don't think it's a great loss.

If you took 85M out of the(edit-thought he had 5 years left) ~223 he's owed the next 6 years, I think you get back a couple of top 100 prospects. I think that's a fair bargain for the right team. It doesn't matter, they won't do it...but I don't know why. What's the difference between the Rockies and Angels? The City they play in?

LOL...really? A RB? There are really good RBs in this draft. The...36th pick will get you a really good RB. The 4th pick could get you an elite DL. Assume QBs go in the top 3(1 or 2 at least) and you could get a guy one of those Michigan DL or the kid from Kentucky who could really help fix that defense. They're so soft up the middle. But then you realize that poorly run organizations...it almost doesn't matter how much talent they have, they stay bad. The Jets. Even if you think Rodgers has fallen off, he's still EASILY good enough they could have 5-6 wins. But bad teams find a way to stay bad.

That's the same exact thing I thought. Unless they're REALLY going to and they go and get Burnes and Soto...and Trout stays healthy...and then maybe Rendon decides he enjoys playing Baseball, they still won't be as good as 4-5 teams in the AL. Eat a chunk of Trout's salary, deal him, take back prospects, start the rebuild already.

Burke at DH, also I'm hopeful you have a better defender in CF and keep Chourio in LF. He's good, but I want PCA type good and...I'm hoping Payne can be that or Lara Then you just keep signing everyone you can. We could have been in the same situation as the Nats with Chourio set to become a FA at 26. If Pratt and Made follow the same trajectory, they become top 5 prospects(which is entirely possible in both cases) and lock them up. Of course, by then, you'll start seeing a backlog in prospects. We haven't even accounted for the Wilken, Yophery, Lara, Boeve, Quintana, Adams-type prospects Get your Devers in Made, your Gunnar in Pratt, and continue the young, aggressive play style under Rickie Weeks(whom I presume takes over by then) that you developed under Murphy. Your staff looks like Misiorowski, Meccage, Ashby, who I probably have an irrational amount of confidence in at this point would be in his final year Henderson, Letson, Knoth, Hunt, whoever, and I suspect we'll be a bit more aggressive next years going after a Camminiti type prospect with so many athletic up the middle type players. That leaves BP. And I get you could do this every year, project out and say these guys will be REALLY good, but this group is different. They key will be to keep this player acquirement and development staff around and churning out talent, but they've got the ball rolling now and it's picking up speed. A lot of heartbreaking playoff losses, but this is as bright a future as the Brewers have probably had since Molitor and Yount were coming up together in ~'78...and they were a Rollie Fingers injury away from a WS. Who knows how things fall, but it's exciting as hell!

Interesting...but I'm a bit skeptical putting Boeve and Yoho, as good as they were this year(plus Areinamo) over the likes of Adams, Bitonti, Para, Pena...and then Burke who BA just spoke about, saying he had the bet power in the system and an underrated hit tool while also saying he should be a fast riser. Man that's exciting.

If we're throwing Hall and Ashby into the rotation WITH Woodruff...we're sure not going with a 5 man rotation either. Seems like the preference is a 6 man anyway, but it's going to be all the more important with that rotation. Myers is still young, he's got one year as a starter, Civale and Peralta...I don't know why you're moving a 5.5M starter who can pitch in any role. I'm not getting rid of him for 3 pitchers who...I think can be really good but sure aren't guarantees. I'm confident in Woodruff coming back, but I'm also thinking you should hold onto the guy who you know can give you 5-6 innings a night for 30 starts. He also DID have an ERA in the low 3s until late in the year. He had that 10 ER blow up, but he was pretty good for a #4-5.

Walker or Kenneth Grant are two guys who could be in play. Walker is a monster and a freak who I think will climb up boards(along with Grant). But I'd like either. Carter isn't really a fit anymore. Even in the 3-4, he didn't fit the Packers profile, but as a DE at 6-2 245? I guess if Hafley thought he could play off-ball and then on 3rd down rush the passer...maybe late in Rd 2? Or maybe they're willing to sacrifice the 3 down edge for a guy who's a little more explosive? Mykel Williams from UGA is more likely. 6'5 265 and he's more fluid. LT Overton from 'Bama. A lot of similarities to Rashan Gary...who I still think is going to have a big 2nd half. Tacario Davis-I don't care about picks as much at CB, just stay in position. I just don't know if he's more of a C2 corner or a long Press Man, but he's pretty physical and gets his head around and looks like he'll at least be in the 4.5 range. Jonah Monheim would be the Center I think is the most likely. 6'5 310, but he's so versatile. He can play in a ZBS. He's played OT, OG and now is starting at Center. I think watching the Packers they're running less zone blocking and more gap schemes. Shavon Revel- 6'3 CB from East Carolina has some Kevin King like physical abilities(which is a plus, King's athleticism wasn't his problem). I think you can mostly write off WR early. Watson and Doubs are the two who are a year away and then Reed, Wicks, Melton, Heath...feels like I'm missing someone, they've got two years left. So unlikely they draft one there. I think DL makes a LOT of sense. Walker could be a top 5-10 pick based on physical ability. But by that same measure. Albert Haynesworth could have been a all-time great DT. I don't know if Walker has any work ethic issues, but he's so dominant at times, I would have to think he'd possibly go early. CB-Also makes a lot of sense. I liked Jordan Morgan. I had him and Tyler Guyton as two guys I was hoping they'd pick...but I think if Mitchell or Cooper had fallen one more spot, either one would be playing CB in GB right now and we'd have a long term starter. With how much we stress that position, it just makes sense to go get a long, athletic press man corner early. OL-The Ron Wolf theory. Always try to upgrade. Myers is in a walk year. Rhyan has actually played pretty well. Walker is not all that impressive. Morgan has been injured and his future could be at LT or OG. If there's a OT in the 1st, I could see them going back there, especially if they want to move Tom at some point(he'll get paid this off-season and likely something like 5/110 or 4/88) so he's not going to lose money to play another position. LT-Josh Simmons OSU He may end up falling to the 2nd. He'd be a really interesting pick. He looked really good before the knee injury. Torn ACL could keep him out of Rd1, but make him a good target in Rd 2. I'm skeptical with Walker's injury history the Packers will pay him(eligible after this season). Again, back to back years at OL, but if you're getting positional versatility, who cares? Another CB makes the secondary look REALLY good. DL has been an issue all year and is so expensive to address via trade/free agency and they could definitely grab a WR, but the value would really have to be there. A couple luxury picks, Tyler Warren Penn State. I'd LOVE a 3TE set with Musgrave, Kraft and Warren. Also saves Kraft and Musgrave just isn't that physical inline TE. Jihaad Campbell-MLB Alabama I don't think the Packers will use a 1st or 2nd on another LB, but he's an athletic, 3 down LB who'd add something at the point. The one guy I'm really hoping is there in Rd1 is Kenneth Grant. Even if you have to give up a bit to move up, he'd be worth it. I think he's a similar prospect to Kenny Clark, but a bigger body, probably more natural as a pass rusher than Clark as a rookie.

I like Yeager and IIRC, he was the more...highly touted reliever at the time of the trade. But if he doesn't pan out, that trade is really going to end up looking bad for us!

There has to be something about Patrick the organization just isn't as high on. We needed innings several times this past year and he never got the call despite just consistently pitching really well. I've seen people say he can tough 97...IDK if that was early and rare or what, but if they didn't call him up last year, seems strange they'd hold onto him this year, particularly if he may cost you a guy like Ernesto Martinez for example. Someone we've put 7 years into. Ashby seems like he's penciled in as a starter. Him, Woodruff, Hall, our top two prospects probably not being capable of throwing more than 140 innings...at most. I'm not sure either even got to 100IP this year, so another year of building and maybe throwing out of the pen. So for those reasons you'd think he'd be back, but they also seem to uncover a lot of these types of arms.

Nah, the other way was right!

It takes a little time when you tear it all down and rebuild it. We wouldn't have replaced our K, LS, P and of course we recycled most of the bottom half of the roster because we rebuilt the whole team. Our STs look...average now. They'd probably be in the top ~12 if they had a good kicking game. I think Rizzi should have been hired, that's a mistake we can't take back, but that's...6-7 years ago now. Rich B hasn't been a silver bullet, but...he's been alright. It's hard to find good replacements at all these positions all at the same time. This was the point the whole time. Anders Carlson wasn't THE failure, Rich B isn't THE failure, Gute was as much of a part of the problem as them and so was timing. They all played a part in it...and I'm sure we'll try to once again "solve" the kicking issue next year.

The Brewers took back roughly ~1M more than was going out in the Hader deal. That's...not really a ton of money,. even for the Brewers. That's also a bigger factor for an in-season trade as it helped get the Pads under the luxury tax...which they were just hanging around.

Well...again, they've certainly tried, but last year it was every aspect. Wheelan has been the better at everything, so...I guess the only we can do... 2025 NFL Mock 1st rd 32-Green Bay Packers Bailey Parsons, LS, Stanford It's the only reasonable thing to do at this point... Hey, he even has a highlight video!

We'd be in a WHOLE lot of trouble without Willis. They don't get a 1st down on that pass to Reed(or a big play)...Jax probably wins. We always seem to struggle with Jax on the road. Willis is even more surprising to me than the whole Love thing. You' had 3 years with Love to get him ready. You had less than 2 weeks to get Willis ready and he looks like a really good NFL QB. Not sure how much of it is coaching him up vs how much is just game planning around his talent. I'm about 90% sure neither is enough to beat Det next week though. Especially if Wlliams and company are out as well.

And the kicker they've got was one of the best in the league last year, he's been an AP... Not exactly like a rookie, but...just Jets like stuff going on. If he was as good as he was last year, they're probably...5-3? Rodgers has thrown 3 picks late in games they could have won. I get why Saleh is without a job though! Definitely his fault...

They are...but Daniels is...pretty clearly the much better player at this point. The Bears have started with one of the easiest schedules for a Rookie QB you could have. This was the toughest game...so points for that, but Williams plays sloppy and undisciplined. He's clearly got an incredibly talented arm and he's elusive, but their coaching is just...moronic. Two straight QB draws before the 4th and 3 PI was called on a ball in the EZ that Allen likely isn't getting to? Most of the best young teams go with an offensive-minded coach to help their QB out. Williams isn't getting that. They did build up the weapons around him though.

AHAHAHA!!! Same here! Especially after that Hail Marry!

Which team is the most dysfunctional right now? I don't think any team is in worse position than the Saints, 82M over the cap and...they just keep signing guys like Chase Young for 1 year 13M type deals and then 4 void years. The Jets-They have drafted multiple QBs in the top 5, then trade for Rodgers. They hit on a bunch of picks, have a ton of talent all over but turn everything over to Rodgers and...somehow suck. 10 All Pros on that team. Or the Browns. The team that appeared to be on it's way to finally breaking through, were a little up and down with Baker, but went and traded for Watson...which would have made perfect sense ~15 months earlier when everyone wanted him, but they did it after he sat for a year(and then 11 more games) and are basically just running out the clock until they can get his dead cap low enough to eat it...by which time, most of the great young talent they had, Myles Garrett for example, they'll have been completely wasted. Panthers-Went all in on a year there were no "sure" things at QB and handed the Bears the tools to finally get it right?

Still not sure why you think a team is going to take 3 players we would otherwise just DFA.