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Again, adding a #4 type in Looper when you had 3 other #4-5 types in Feb of 2009 is why I say Melvin was sitting on his hands. And just for the record, who were the other free agent pitchers that were better than 4-5 types that the Brewers should have signed? -
You and Peavy both keep going back to draft picks, and I've clearly stated numerous times that they have no value in this scenario But I think that that's completely untrue. You keep saying the Brewers are emptying their system in trades and act like they're not getting anything back in return. Well, regardless of the fact that the picks do set the timetable for the prospects back, they're still adding talent back to the system. What if both of the picks from the Sabathia deal turn out to be as good or better prospects than Brantley and LaPorta? While certainly no guarantee, it is quite possible. And again, if you think the Brewers' window is in 2013-2014 as you have repeatedly said, you should be on board with stocking up on talent that would potentially be ready to help in that time frame like these draftees would be.
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Weeks was rated as the best defensive 2B in the NL by some metrics before he got hurt In a whopping 35 game sample, for the record.
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Ben Sheets (assuming he's healthy for Aug/Sept) is a notch above any pitcher that will be available by the trading deadline. Giving Sheets a $5 million/2 month deal (assuming health) would have been the no-brainer of the century Recent reports are that Ben is very possibly not going to pitch this year. If the Brewers had re-signed him (or he had accepted the arby that they offered him), they'd have been paying him millions of dollars to not pitch possibly at all this year.
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Doug better be careful though. I agree. While I was indifferent about Braun's comments (even if they were both true and what we all were thinking), I think Melvin's response was surprisingly harsh and directed towards an elite player that is guaranteed to be the face of the franchise for years to come. Though I must say, kudos here, Doug: "I think he made a fundamental mistake," said Melvin. "I didn't hear our pitchers complaining when we lost a 1-0 game (to New York last week) or the 2-1 game in 10 innings in Chicago.
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The point is that once we give talent up, that's it, we don't have an unlimited pipeline of talent to trade away ....unless you get draft picks for the talent you acquired leaving in free agency, which might develop into additional talent to trade away. If the Brewers truly have a long term window through 2013-2014 like you have repeatedly claimed, I should think you'd be on board with that proposal. Why is their current season relevant to the conversation when the moves should have happened over the off-season or last season? Because we're currently discussing who they can trade to make a move now, in a thread about making a move now, when now is during the current season. Seems relevant to me.
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The prospects we gave we no longer have to trade, I think this is the issue that many here are missing. But with the seasons they're having, what value would they have brought back? Guys like Brantley have seen huge declines in their value.
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I stated a couple of weeks ago that DM seemingly sat on his hands this offseason and I still got a red mouth from the lashing I took. The best way for this "small market" team to build and compete is through off-season moves. The Brewers signed two free agent pitchers for pretty good money this offseason, so I can't see how that can be considered 'sitting on his hands'.
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We're almost getting to the point now though that Hall might be willing to go to AAA for a while because he really has no other choices to help himself get out of this. Making some sort of deal with him to get him to go down for a couple of weeks and guarantee to call him back quick-ish might do the trick to at least make it feasible to him.
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I think he would have to take the assignment (after 72 hours) or give up the contract. If someone claimed him, off he would go. Billy could refuse that and the AAA demotion, but then would give up his contract. I "think" that is the deal. Feel free to correct me if I'm mis-understanding this. Bill has enough service time that he can choose to not go down, and it wouldn't have any effect on his contract.
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I support most of what the Brewers have done and continue to do, but if you're honestly telling me that Lamb and Hall could keep 3B warm for Gamel...I'm not buying that at all. Going into the offseason, it was quite feasible. Especially considering the well-publicized reports that Macha told Hall that the 3B job was his to lose, Hall seeing much better after Lasik, yada yada yada. Also consider that a couple of years ago, a Graffanino/Counsell platoon was used to keep 3B warm for Ryan Braun. This situation was probably supposed to work the same way, with the problem that Casey McGehee has come out of no where to become a legit rookie of the year candidate. Otherwise, Gamel is probably starting at 3B every day and we're not having this conversation, much like endaround said. the way this has all gone down Mat should've never been called up. You're looking at the end result and saying that their plan was bad. Hindsight is 20/20. You're telling us that when Gamel was called up on May 14th, that the Brewers should have predicted that McGehee would be hitting .343 with a .963 OPS two months later heading into the All-Star Break, and that Counsell would be at .289 with a .768 OPS as well? Anyone would have been crazy to expect that.
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How does that 'plan' have anything to do with Gamel? Second line of his post: First it was to platoon Lamb and Hall until Gamel proved himself in AAA
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No, Mike Burns is pretty bad. So is McClung. Burns gave up two earned runs in 6.2 IP last time out... I think you're over reacting. Not that I wouldn't prefer to get someone better for this spot in the rotation, though.
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Hearing Soriano booed mercilessly by Cubs fans while he goes through the motions out there is priceless.
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Calling that an error on Cam is absolutely laughable.
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No Brewers in the final vote, for the record.
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Lilly is the lone Cubs representative. Hehe! (And a heck of a testament to how wonderfully disappointing a year it's been for most of the Cubs)
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Congrats to Prince!
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No Hoffman or Yo. Somewhat stunning.
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The AL and NL starters have been announced, including our own Ryan Braun in the OF: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/all_star/y2009/roster_league.jsp
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Can the Escobar rumors stop now?
PeaveyFury replied to TheCrew07's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
I think you're only looking at it surface deep... how many times have people said there's no star power in the second wave? That wasn't the point I made or that he was responding to... we're commenting that people aren't willing to trade known production for potential while they're in the middle of a playoff race, and I think that's a fair statement. I don't buy that with Parra epic failing this is a playoff team. But the problem is that with those very rotation issues, they're in first place at the half way point. I just don't think it's either feasible or reasonable to expect the team to get to July 31st and not try to improve themselves to make a run. If they've made it that far and are in contention, there's no reason to think that an additional arm or two couldn't help immensely. Furthermore our window of opportunity doesn't close when we lose Hardy and Fielder No, but it becomes considerably less certain. As you said, 3 years from now we're banking on potential, right now we're working with reality. -
Can the Escobar rumors stop now?
PeaveyFury replied to TheCrew07's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
and the overwhelming majority wanted him called up anyway and Spivey traded. ...because Spivey was terrible with the Brewers. As someone else mentioned in the thread, when those guys came up, they were replacing guys that deserved to be replaced. With Escobar, you have an All-Star short stop already in place. It's two totally different situations. Who is this team going to beat in the playoffs with it's current rotation? ...... Look ahead to the playoffs, how do we get out of the first round with our current rotation? Exactly the argument for going out and upgrading the rotation if they find a deal that makes sense for the Brewers. -
I'm not taking anything away from Melvin, he works very hard, gets out to see all the minor league teams, goes on scouting trips, and certainly has an informed opinion, but his focus is on MLB as it should be. What he does deserve credit for is hiring excellent people to evaluate talent for the team and they have maintained a consistent philosophy, which has led to a very successful farm system and good product at the MLB level. I think there was a very noticeable shift in the Brewers' drafting philosophy in the upper rounds from high school players to college players that happened right when Melvin took over, so I don't know if you're giving enough credit to him there.
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Can the Escobar rumors stop now?
PeaveyFury replied to TheCrew07's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
It's really strange around here, with the first wave of prospects all we talked about was what they could do I assure you, when Weeks, Fielder, and Braun came through the minors, their huge defensive issues were discussed VERY regularly... -
21 yr old Cuban lefty that throws 100mph defected
PeaveyFury replied to Herm's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
Don't worry . . . he'll be with the Yankees soon . . . ....and in 4-5 years, they'll be trying to dump his bloated contract when he proves to be overhyped and just stunningly mediocre like el Duque or Contreras, the last "phenoms" to come out of Cuba.
