I would hope Brewer fans would be able to identify the upside and ceiling of the players they were acquiring, rather than the small sample of a few months of one season. At the end of the day, fans don't make moves, GMs do. I for one would be very excited to pick up a couple prospects of Phillips's and Ortiz's pedigree. I disagree that the offers weren't close, too. The only real prospect was Diaz, and scouting reports are not particularly high on him. I think Phillips has an equal if not high ceiling. Then you are comparing Ortiz to the poo poo platter of fringe prospects the Dodgers sent. I guess if a couple of guys make it, they did OK, but if Ortiz ascends to the mid to upper rotation starter that most scouting reports peg him as, that's much more valuable. The top 3 prospects the Dodgers gave up would have been #2 (Diaz will likely be a top 50), #15, and #20 in the Dodgers' system in the midseason update. Kremer, Bannon, and Pop rank #13, #17, and #29 in the Orioles system now (Diaz is #2). It's contradictory to continuously talk up our #10-#20 prospects and yet say that Diaz is the only "real" prospect the Dodgers gave up and call the rest "poo poo platter". I think what we offered is fair, but I doubt the Orioles highly considered it over what the Dodgers offered. I disagree that Phillips has the ceiling of Diaz, and I'm sure the Orioles don't see it that way either. Ortiz is a better second prospect than Kremer, but the fact that he's had trouble staying healthy and has basically treaded water in his 2 years since we traded for him isn't a great sign especially for a medically paranoid team like the O's. Basically, I can believe our offer was second but probably a fairly distant second.