If people think that starting in 2017 we can start to ascend again I gotta believe that would require a significant starting pitcher signing or trade. With Phillips and Arcia I think the offense can be good enough the pitching simply has a very long way to go. Assuming Hader is solid you have Nelson, Hader and ? Lopez and Jungmann have both flamed out so far. The more likely scenario is we play 2017 with Hader, Arcia, and Phillips for all or a significant portion of the year. If they show enough potential and the team does well enough then Stearns will make some moves Winter 2017. In addition to Nelson and Hader we need at least 1 more cost controlled minor leaguer to break through. So someone out of the Lopez, Mederios, Ponce, Devin Williams group is going to have the break out if we hope to compete in 2018. You can't buy 3/5ths of your starting rotation.