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Ryan Madson or Joakim Soria?


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Would you take a chance on either of these guys?

 

Stats: Fangraphs

 

Ryan Madson: 32 years old

$11M mutual option, $2.5M buy-out

Madson had Tommy John surgery on March 24.

 

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Joakim Soria: 29 years old

Soria had his second Tommy John surgery on April 13. He threw a baseball for the first time on 10/3.

Kansas City Star:

Royals officials privately acknowledge the club will exercise a $750,000 buyout clause on Soria’s $8 million option for next season. The deadline for doing so is three days after the conclusion of the World Series.

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I would, they both seem like low risk high reward type pitchers which is exactly the kind I want melvin going after

 

I totally disagree. They don't need a reclamation/rehab projects. They need a steady rubber arm guy. Their bullpen doesn't have to be great. It has to be decent and dependable. They need Salomon Torres types. They also desperately need a quality lefty which they haven't had for years.

 

They need a guy like Jon Rauch. Rauch isn't flashy nor does he put up anything eye-popping, but he takes the ball, and more often than not he'll get it to the closer who still is Axford. A lefty like J.P. Howell or Sean Burnett is critical to neutralize the Reds two biggest threats.

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I would, they both seem like low risk high reward type pitchers which is exactly the kind I want melvin going after

 

Soria, yes, Madson, no.

 

Soria's record prior seemed to be more solid, he's three years younger, and I think he could step in as a closer if Ax struggles again. The fact he put those numbers up for the Royals is all the more impressive.

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They also desperately need a quality lefty which they haven't had for years.

 

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for the type of contracts those 2 are likely to get I think both are easily worth the risk. I'm not saying they need to just sign those 2 and would be in favor of signing other guys but IMO most bullpen arms are inconsistent year to year.
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for the type of contracts those 2 are likely to get I think both are easily worth the risk. I'm not saying they need to just sign those 2 and would be in favor of signing other guys but IMO most bullpen arms are inconsistent year to year.
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soria would be worth taking a look at. melvin likes to give blown out former closers 1/10 mil deals though. 1/2.5 mil with a incentive filled option for like 4 mil could be pretty good.

isnt matt capps a free agent? he might be worth taking a look at as well.

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I would like melvin to go after both. offer both guys 1 yr deals backloaded with incentives. beneficial to the brewers because it would give us veteran bullpen arms and (hopefully) good 7th & 8th inning guys. Plus if the season isnt going well, we could trade them.

 

We only need either of them for 1 year because by then we should have a better look at the minor pitchers and if we could move any to the bullpen (Rogers, Thornburg, Pena).

 

Realistically, I would think Melvin will make an offer to one of them. Make an offer to J.P Howell or Affeldt. Make an offer to Mike Adams or Jason Grille.

 

So I think our bullpen will look like:

Axford

Henderson

Kintzler

Narveson

*Madson

*Howell

*Adams

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It looks like the Reds are interested in Soria. I hope he doesn't enter our division. These guys are getting a decent amount of interest, so I think the only way to entice them to come to Milwaukee would be to demote Axford (not something I would support).
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I would give Soria a look for sure. I have always been a fan.

 

His numbers are really outstanding. If you subtract 2011 when he was obviously pitching hurt, it's 4 years of lights out pitching.

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