Grade the Deadline

[Pugger]

On 10/3/2022 at 11:32 AM, Jopal78 said:

Their pitching (bullpen and injuries) is 8th of 15 in terms of earned runs allowed. Their hitting is 6th in runs scored.  I don't think adding a hitter suddenly puts them in the playoffs. Rather, they probably shouldn't have traded their closer ostensibly for prospects, and the bullpen arms they did acquire for depth ended up all being colossal busts. 

We might have scored runs but IMO the biggest Achilles' heel for this team is the failure of getting crucial hits with RISP.  How many times did we have runners at 2nd and/or 3rd with less than 2 outs and could not put the damn ball in play?  

[sveumrules]

3 hours ago, Pugger said:

We might have scored runs but IMO the biggest Achilles' heel for this team is the failure of getting crucial hits with RISP.  How many times did we have runners at 2nd and/or 3rd with less than 2 outs and could not put the damn ball in play?  

The Brewers batting average of .246 with RISP was 20th, their OBP of .351 with RISP ranked 3rd and their SLG of .450 with RISP also ranked 3rd.

Add it all up, and even though they didn't necessarily get the most hits with RISP, their overall OPS with RISP was 2nd in MLB behind only the (who else) Dodgers.

The main culprit was just not getting RISP enough to begin with, the Brewers 1,453 PAs with RISP ranked 21st.

[BruisedCrew]

Seems to me that OBP with RISP is a pretty useless statistic. With RISP you’re looking for something to drive in a run or two. If a batter comes up with runners on second and third, a walk (possibly intentional or the result of pitching around a hitter) doesn’t help get a run in. 
 

So, the bottom line is that the Brewers were poor at getting runners on base and poor at getting those runners in. That’s a pretty deadly combination, both in terms of scoring runs and winning games, and in terms of being fun to watch.  No wonder such a high percentage of their runs came on HR. 

[NBBrewFan]

56 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

Seems to me that OBP with RISP is a pretty useless statistic. With RISP you’re looking for something to drive in a run or two. If a batter comes up with runners on second and third, a walk (possibly intentional or the result of pitching around a hitter) doesn’t help get a run in. 
 

So, the bottom line is that the Brewers were poor at getting runners on base and poor at getting those runners in. That’s a pretty deadly combination, both in terms of scoring runs and winning games, and in terms of being fun to watch.  No wonder such a high percentage of their runs came on HR. 

The Brewers BB% was 4th in MLB.  Their BA was 21st.  Their OBP was in the middle at 13th.  They need more hitters with higher BA, which should lead to a higher OBP.  They weren't bad at getting runners on based on their BB%, it was the killer BA.  And as we all saw most of the season the lack of hits lead to a boring product and a dysfunctional offense.

[Robocaller]

6 hours ago, Pugger said:

We might have scored runs but IMO the biggest Achilles' heel for this team is the failure of getting crucial hits with RISP.  How many times did we have runners at 2nd and/or 3rd with less than 2 outs and could not put the damn ball in play?  

please stop this. they hit .235 overall and .246 with RISP. 

 

[rickh150]

2 hours ago, sveumrules said:

The Brewers batting average of .246 with RISP was 20th, their OBP of .351 with RISP ranked 3rd and their SLG of .450 with RISP also ranked 3rd.

Add it all up, and even though they didn't necessarily get the most hits with RISP, their overall OPS with RISP was 2nd in MLB behind only the (who else) Dodgers.

The main culprit was just not getting RISP enough to begin with, the Brewers 1,453 PAs with RISP ranked 21st.

Great point… a bunch of .235 batters that were looking to “ring that bell” was the problem. And not as good pitching. Everyone but maybe Woodruff was worse. Errors poked up at times too.

[Robocaller]

In retrospect, the biggest mistake they made at the deadline was not acquiring some old, decent SP to fill in. When's the last time we had a healthy rotation of pitchers who weren't on a short pitch limit?

 

[LouisEly]

9 minutes ago, Robocaller said:

In retrospect, the biggest mistake they made at the deadline was not acquiring some old, decent SP to fill in. When's the last time we had a healthy rotation of pitchers who weren't on a short pitch limit?

 

Last year there were only three games started by anyone other than Burnes, Woodruff, Peralta, Houser, Lauer, Anderson, and Ashby, with Ashby starting four games.  The six starters they had planned on accounted for 155 of 162 games started.  IIRC, they had a six-man rotation at times last year, reducing the number of starts they had to make.

In 2022 it was 16 games not started by their six planned starters (Burnes, Woodruff, Peralta, Houser, Lauer, Ashby).  No luxury of a six-man rotation.

[LouisEly]

Sixteen blown saves after the trade deadline, most in the majors.

Injuries to their starters and the poor performance of the bullpen trade acquisitions was the downfall of this team.  A healthy Burnes, Woodruff, Peralta, and Lauer gives them a chance against anybody.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I give the guy credit for owning it at least. His wins certainly outweigh his losses, so a mulligan is in order IMO. He also went on to say that he expects to remain with the Brewers, along with CC.