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Brewers (Burnes) vs Pirates (Oviedo): 7/1/23, 3:05pm

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4th best SP if they hadn’t dealt Gallen and Alcantara for Marcell Ozuna 

BruisedCrew
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Whether you agree with him or not, Counsell had his reasons for not using Wilson, or someone other than Bush, in the ninth inning last night. He said: "We went for it in the Mets series. We

wiguy94
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If you were to gripe about something, it would be using Wilson in the 8th inning down 7-2 against the Mets instead of Bush. Wilson is available to pitch last night if it wasn't for that inning. 

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10 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:

I think the guys are (ticked) about last night. Pour it on!!!

Yup, keep the runs comin'.

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treego14 Milwaukee Brewers

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5 minutes ago, Pugger said:

Not after what happened last nite.

No, it's over!

We have Cy Young pitching and we are hitting even better today ... Pittsburgh is Blowout City today!

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1 minute ago, treego14 said:

No, it's over!

We have Cy Young pitching and we are hitting even better today ... Pittsburgh is Blowout City today!

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Brewcrew82 Biloxi Shuckers

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1 minute ago, wiguy94 said:

What exactly are you mad at them for? Do you think they told Cutch to be more aggressive at the plate? That doesn't really seem to lineup with how other Brewers hitters approach hitting.

Well, McCutchen's approach totally changed with the Brewers, and he became a below average hitter for the first time in his career as a result. He left the Brewers and is once again an above average hitter driven by a patient approach. 

So, yes, I ascribe some blame to our coaching staff for letting that happen under their watch. We get the non-Brewers version of McCutchen, and we potentially make the playoffs given how close we were. He's not the first hitter they've messed up (see. Hiura, Keston) Our hitting system and coaching is a real problem. 

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5 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Well, McCutchen's approach totally changed with the Brewers, and he became a below average hitter for the first time in his career as a result. He left the Brewers and is once again an above average hitter driven by a patient approach. 

So, yes, I ascribe some blame to our coaching staff for letting that happen under their watch. We get the non-Brewers version of McCutchen, and we potentially make the playoffs given how close we were. He's not the first hitter they've messed up (see. Hiura, Keston) Our hitting system and coaching is a real problem. 

Jedd Gyrko was great with us!

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8 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Well, McCutchen's approach totally changed with the Brewers, and he became a below average hitter for the first time in his career as a result. He left the Brewers and is once again an above average hitter driven by a patient approach. 

So, yes, I ascribe some blame to our coaching staff for letting that happen under their watch. We get the non-Brewers version of McCutchen, and we potentially make the playoffs given how close we were. He's not the first hitter they've messed up (see. Hiura, Keston) Our hitting system and coaching is a real problem. 

I've been saying this since the collapse last year. People say that a hitting coach doesn't make that much difference, but a good hitting coach turned Philadelphia around last year.

Also, compared to player salaries, it's a relatively cheap fix or attempt at a fix.

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5 minutes ago, RobertCrawley said:

I've been saying this since the collapse last year. People say that a hitting coach doesn't make that much difference, but a good hitting coach turned Philadelphia around last year.

It's not just a hitting coach. It's the system you build, too. Atlanta is the best example. They consistently develop hitters and then get peak production out of the guys they bring in (see, Arcia, Orlando). It's the opposite with the Brewers.

On pitching side we're in really good shape. But we're lagging behind with how we develop/coach hitting. And you're seeing that on the field. 

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26 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Well, McCutchen's approach totally changed with the Brewers, and he became a below average hitter for the first time in his career as a result. He left the Brewers and is once again an above average hitter driven by a patient approach. 

So, yes, I ascribe some blame to our coaching staff for letting that happen under their watch. We get the non-Brewers version of McCutchen, and we potentially make the playoffs given how close we were. He's not the first hitter they've messed up (see. Hiura, Keston) Our hitting system and coaching is a real problem. 

His approach changed to an approach nothing like the rest of the Brewers hitters...so why do you think the Brewers told Cutch to hit like that?

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His approach changed to an approach nothing like the rest of the Brewers hitters...so why do you think the Brewers told Cutch to hit like that?

That's besides the point. It happened under their watch. And now he's left the Brewers and is back to being an above average hitter. 

I wouldn't say we don't have any free swingers on our team either....

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20 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

It's not just a hitting coach. It's the system you build, too. Atlanta is the best example. They consistently develop hitters and then get peak production out of the guys they bring in (see, Arcia, Orlando). It's the opposite with the Brewers.

On pitching side we're in really good shape. But we're lagging behind with how we develop/coach hitting. And you're seeing that on the field. 

Orlando Arcia has a .307 xwOBA this year and is dramtically overperforming that xwOBA. 

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8 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Orlando Arcia has a .307 xwOBA this year and is dramtically overperforming that xwOBA. 

That's still significantly better than his two full seasons with the Brewers, when he was probably the worst hitter in baseball...And at the end of the day, it's about actual production. If you don't think the Braves' hitter development/coaching system is far superior to the Brewers, then I guess there's nothing else I can say. 

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1 minute ago, Brewcrew82 said:

This is fun! Unfortunately it also means we're getting shutout by Rich Hill tomorrow lol

That old man will get rocked, too!  🤩

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That's still significantly better than his last three full seasons with the Brewers...And at the end of the day, it's about actual production. If you don't think the Braves' hitter development/coaching system is far superior to the Brewers, then I guess there's nothing else I can say. 

Okay if it's about actual production...then how can you say we have had no success?

Wong, Renfroe, Peterson, Urias, Tellez, Adames are all guys we acquired in the last 3 years and all of them hit better with the Brewers than they had before they got to Milwaukee

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