Article: No Trades: Brewers Should Play The Options They Have in Nashville

[Jake McKibbin]

2 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

9% K rate in July......403/.431/.694

And you're not talking about slowing down a little. You're talking about grinding to a halt. 

 

The whiff rate of 18% is very very promising... We might also not see any walks if he keeps hitting as well as he has, it seems anything in zone is getting crushed, no chance for a deep count

[wiguy94]

6 minutes ago, Jake McKibbin said:

Yeah even before this current hot patch he was striking out far less, but just making poor quality contact. The next stage seems to be knowing which pitches to take and which ones he's doing damage on to increase the regularity of AB's ending in quality contact. EDlC did this in a month, I don't think it'll take too long to refine his approach and his contact ability is way past Elly's. He's actually increased his floor massively with this, given that oppo power, can you imagine only striking out 15-16% of the time? Good lord

Yeah Chourio kind of is giving off Ryan Braun vibes right now. If he could even remotely come close to Braun's bat with his CF defense, you are talking a superstar.

[StearnsFTW]

7 hours ago, wiguy94 said:

This timeline is so incredibly off for Chourio. He’s going to be in the MLB far sooner than mid-season 2025

I'll be shocked I lf he's not up by the all star break next year.  And not surprised at all if it's sooner.

[StearnsFTW]

I think Clancy is treating Chourio like a "normal" prospect.

 

He's not a normal prospect.   He's a freak.

[wiguy94]

2 hours ago, StearnsFTW said:

I'll be shocked I lf he's not up by the all star break next year.  And not surprised at all if it's sooner.

I wouldn't be surprised if he bulks up this offseason and makes the opening day roster. Chourio is about the best chance we have of getting the 1st round pick for having the ROTY

[Brewcrew82]

1 minute ago, wiguy94 said:

I wouldn't be surprised if he bulks up this offseason and makes the opening day roster. Chourio is about the best chance we have of getting the 1st round pick for having the ROTY

Wouldn't shock me at all. He's pretty much a lock at this point to end up at Nashville before the end of the season, so it's not like he would be skipping AAA entirely (like Soto).  

[RedStickBrew]

23 hours ago, ClosetBrewerFan said:

Toro has been really crushing the ball in the last month.  He's deserves a callup to play 1B.  We need Own Miller's bat out of the lineup.  He is dangerously close to finishing July with an OPS under .500 for the month.

I think I am warming to the idea of giving Toro a shot too.  Doesn't seem likely the FO will promote Hiura, Chourio, or Black to Milwaukee.  I'd hate to lose good prospects for league average rentals at the deadline.

Toro can play defense, his LH/RH splits are pretty even and the OPS over 800 looks good.  Issue is with past MLB performance, the .629 OPS in over 800 ABs is not pretty.

[endaround]

Toro is basically another version of Miller.  If they have finally moved on from Winkler or replacing Turang, sure Toro is likely better.  But he is not anything more than a solid utility player or lower level starter at 2B.

[Playing Catch]

Is it more likely that the Brewers get close-to-average production from 1B/DH by hoping Tellez/Winker turn things around, or that Hiura, Toro, or a collection of Nashville nobodies (written with respect) will do it?

Same question applies to most of the likely trade targets.

While the truism applies that you can't just keep going with Tellez/Winker and expect different results, projecting baseball production is often a fool's errand, and quite possibly, a DFA'd Winker could get picked up by some coastal team and play well down the stretch. I'm sure this is still the conversation in the Front Office.

[Thurston Fluff]

Getting Justin Wilson and Woodruff back is like getting an all star starter and veteran lefty reliever for free which means less need to overspend on offense. Speaking of offense, there are several players who've under performed but have enough of a track record to think they'll turn it around. Most notably Urias and Adames. I wouldn't mind at all if they keep the farm intact. I really don't really want them to trade anyone of note just for a stop gap player.

[Ro Mueller]

Since RHH OF/INF Jahmai Jones was called up on July 16 instead of switch-hitting INF Abraham Toro, Toro has gone 17-for-36 with 8 doubles, a homer and 10 RBIs. Toro was getting some solid results at the time, so this surge is not much of a surprise. And no, I don’t expect it to continue into August.

Sucks to miss out on these little AAAA-player hot streaks (like Hiura in April, Singleton in May, Alex Jackson in June). They usually only last about 3 weeks, but they’re worth tapping into. 

[Jake McKibbin]

5 minutes ago, damuelle said:

Since RHH OF/INF Jahmai Jones was called up on July 16 instead of switch-hitting INF Abraham Toro, Toro has gone 17-for-36 with 8 doubles, a homer and 10 RBIs. Toro was getting some solid results at the time, so this surge is not much of a surprise. And no, I don’t expect it to continue into August.

Sucks to miss out on these little AAAA-player hot streaks (like Hiura in April, Singleton in May, Alex Jackson in June). They usually only last about 3 weeks, but they’re worth tapping into. 

I think some of this depends on whether they ned an adjustment period, for example it has happened with Toro in the past, it's why the Astros finally traded him. Looked great at AAA and struggled after, although he did have very low BABIP's

Jahmai Jones likely won't be too long for the team, but we'll find out soon enough

Hiura wasnt just hot in April/May, he was actually performing consistently and I'm guessing he's working back to that still post injury. It'll click at some point again, the question is when. Good news is that even in a funk he's still not striking out!

 

[Ro Mueller]

6 minutes ago, Jake McKibbin said:

Hiura wasnt just hot in April/May, he was actually performing consistently and I'm guessing he's working back to that still post injury. It'll click at some point again, the question is when. Good news is that even in a funk he's still not striking out!

 

I assume Hiura’s crowding the plate moreso of late: 10 HBPs over his last 20 games, not including yesterday’s when he was hit, the umpire failed to call it and insult was added by being ejected from the game.

[Jake McKibbin]

1 minute ago, damuelle said:

I assume Hiura’s crowding the plate moreso of late: 10 HBPs over his last 20 games, not including yesterday’s when he was hit, the umpire failed to call it and insult was added by being ejected from the game.

Yeah been getting a lot of those... I wonder if it's helping him cover the outer part of the plate better, if so we'll see once the timing adapts how he fares