Pirates (Falter) vs Brewers (Burnes): 8/5/23, 6:10pm

[RobertCrawley]

That was a throwaway pitch. It’s not uncommon in the game of baseball 
 

[Bulldogboy]

1 minute ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Wiemer is the worst hitter to have with runners on. 

Which is why he should not have started this game. Imo. Play the best players. If Frelick was up you would have felt better true?

[Brewcrew82]

Just now, Bulldogboy said:

Which is why he should not have started this game. Imo. Play the best players. If Frelick was up you would have felt better true?

I felt fine with Wiemer starting the game because he's been our second best hitter against LHP. 

But, once Shelton took out Falter for a RHP and with runners on, it should have been Frelick. 

[BruisedCrew]

The Reds and Brewers are holding the door open for the Cubs to take over the division. 

[Bulldogboy]

In the end Counsell is managing this team like Snitker is managing the Braves except he doesn't. 

[jason21nl]

Wiemer has to put the ball in play.  The inning died with his AB

[Brewcrew82]

2 minutes ago, nate82 said:

Wiemer probably shouldn’t see RHP for the rest of the year.  He is looking more and more like a platoon hitter only.

Counsell hasn't gone with the Frelick-Wiemer platoon I was hoping we'd see after the Canha acquisition. That's disappointing. 

[mtsportsfan]

Need a quick inning by Burnes here !

[Brewcrew82]

And non-coincidentally it was a Wiemer K that blew up both scoring opportunities....

[82brewcrew82]

Another quality throwaway pitch.

[HarryDoyle]

1 minute ago, Brewcrew82 said:

And non-coincidentally it was a Wiemer K that blew up both scoring opportunities....

Didn't Weimer pop out last night? Maybe I'm wrong.

[willie key]

9 minutes ago, 82brewcrew82 said:

I think the objective is to place the pitch far enough out of the zone that it can't really be hit but enticing enough to potentially swing at.  Not to throw a pitch that is so obviously a ball that my grandmother wouldn't swing at it.  There is a difference between non-competitive and a purpose pitch.

Those work against Adames though

[wiguy94]

Burnes with the nice throwaway pitch on the 3-2 count.

[wiguy94]

Caratini just wanted a cutter low and away and Burnes missed all the way on the inside edge. Just no command tonight.

[brewers888]

Out of all the young outfielders I would be most in favor of moving Wiemer. Yes the defense is great but that bat will never play. Frelick and Mitchell both have better futures at least in Mitchells case if he can get over the injuries.

[mtsportsfan]

5 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:

Didn't Weimer pop out last night? Maybe I'm wrong.

Don't remember , but whatever or whoever it is we just don't come up with a timely hit to break open a game !

[willie key]

10 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

I felt fine with Wiemer starting the game because he's been our second best hitter against LHP. 

But, once Shelton took out Falter for a RHP and with runners on, it should have been Frelick. 

It’s too early in the game.    I think counsell likes to have the flexibility to be able to make 462 moves in the ninth

[yourout]

Not a great start.

Not terrible but certainly not ace worthy.

[wiguy94]

Burnes with another 3-2 throwaway pitch!

[phnxcrew]

Although I’m glad the cubs didn’t sell so their future ceiling decreased, we legitimately look bad enough that they should win the division.  I never thought I’d actually say that

[wiguy94]

Leaving Burnes in with his command looking this terrible. Just asking for trouble. Not a fan of this from Counsell.

[yourout]

Throw  Hayes a cookie here and it's time to change the channel

[folly412]

That's the first time I recall ever seeing Counsell go out and not pull the pitcher.

 

[BruisedCrew]

“Throwaway pitches” aren’t the best idea with 3 balls.

It has been apparent for a few innings that Burnes didn’t have good command. Hopefully he can get out of this inning with the Brewers still in striking distance. 

[jason21nl]

Burnes battled through it.  Offense just sucks.