Trader Jerry dipoto always ready to deal…Can we get Woo for Mitchell, Small, B Wilson?

[Scooterfletcher]

Thoughts?  I’d love to deal from our young cf of before st begins..   this would be my target 

[SF70]

Small has no value. Wilson not much, and Mitchell I believe, needs to get through a season relatively unscathed first before he’s valued by opponent clubs.

Substitute Frelick for Mitchell and add Payamps and maybe DiPoto thinks hard about losing his starter depth.

[KCBrewerfan34]

I don’t think you include Payamps in that deal. I like Woo a lot though

[sveumrules]

Not saying BTV is infallible by any means, but they’ve got this package like $11M short on Milwaukee’s end.

By their calcs subbing Payamps for Wilson adds just shy of $10M in value, or a Frelick for Woo one for one would be essentially a wash.

Seattle has JRod locking down CF, so they probably aren’t the ideal trade partner for our surplus there.

Scanning CF depth charts I think the best fits are COL, SDP, CLE, KCR or TBR.

[Matt Breen]

Woo would be great, but I think this package is light for him. Mitchell just has too many questions to make him as valuable. However, I think the idea of Mitchell isn't a bad idea for Seattle. Rodriguez is a solid defender in CF, but Mitchell would be an upgrade. You figure Haniger plays one of the corners (or does he DH?) - but the other outfielders are not really inspiring. Taylor Trammell was a nice prospect, but looks overmatched thus far. 

Interesting idea. Adding young arms is important with Miley and Burnes likely gone after this year.

[shanedog19]

I think we would be doing ourselves a disservice by trading Mitchell without seeing what he can do for an entire season. His value is probably pretty low, and I think he has the talent to be an all-star caliber player. I would hold onto him for this year, especially now that we are all in on the season.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

2 minutes ago, shanedog19 said:

I think we would be doing ourselves a disservice by trading Mitchell without seeing what he can do for an entire season. His value is probably pretty low, and I think he has the talent to be an all-star caliber player. I would hold onto him for this year, especially now that we are all in on the season.

Agreed. Mitchell is very much the Brewers' version of Christian Watson. He has the ability and talent to be the best player on the field. But staying on the field is obviously a huge concern. He's a 5-tool talent, though, so it would be very tough to give up on an uber-talented 25-year-old. 

[TURBO]

Mitchell and his 38% strike out rate doesn't concern anyone?

(Keston Hiura take a bow)

[Lloyd330]

24 minutes ago, TURBO said:

Mitchell and his 38% strike out rate doesn't concern anyone?

(Keston Hiura take a bow)

He's had 126 career AB's...Lets pump the brakes a little

[wallus]

With the success of the pitching lab, I would shy away from investing a ton of prospect capital on established names unless the value is there.

[TURBO]

38 minutes ago, Lloyd330 said:

He's had 126 career AB's...Lets pump the brakes a little

Oh, believe me, I get it.

I haven't looked at his minor league K numbers, so I don't remember if this was an issue before his 126 at bats, but if this was Hiura, there would be those here that would be pointing out his awful K rate...

I also understand that Hiura doesn't have a leg to stand on when comparing defense, not the same player at all.

Just sayin'

[sveumrules]

Mitchell has pretty divergent splits so far in his limited professional career...

MiLB (592 PA)
13.2 BB% | 25.5 K% | 60.7 GB%

MLB (141 PA)
9.2 BB% | 38.3 K% | 38.9 GB% 

In the minors he has had a reasonable plate discipline profile and hit everything on the ground, in the majors his Ks have exploded and he's hit everything in the air.

The main problem though (besides the ridiculously unsustainable .441 BABIP in the majors) is only 733 total PA over three full seasons.

[Matt Breen]

47 minutes ago, Lloyd330 said:

He's had 126 career AB's...Lets pump the brakes a little

Mitchell has a minor league strikeout rate of 25.5%. While not huge, it's still not great. However in college, it was 15.5%.

Players tend to having higher strikeout rates once they reach the majors due to the better pitching - that makes sense. 

Huira is a really a weird case. 16% in college. 23.6% in the minors. Then 36% in the majors. I'm. not sure if we should use the extreme outlier as a model. But it shows that it does happen. 

But I think it's not hard to believe that Mitchell will be better - but still not great. Maybe 30% is a goal. Then improve down the road. We should remember that Mitchell has only 500 or so ABs in three years due to injuries. So you would hope that he will only get better with more experience.

Of course, perhaps he's got a fatal flaw in his approach and pitchers will only keep exploiting it. 

Personally, I think Mitchell is a fascinating player - and I'd love to see him play full time this year. Frelick, Mitchell, Chourio and Wiemer would be an amazing defensive outfield (Yelich can DH).

 

[Fear The Chorizo]

3 hours ago, TURBO said:

Oh, believe me, I get it.

I haven't looked at his minor league K numbers, so I don't remember if this was an issue before his 126 at bats, but if this was Hiura, there would be those here that would be pointing out his awful K rate...

I also understand that Hiura doesn't have a leg to stand on when comparing defense, not the same player at all.

Just sayin'

I may be mistaken, but IIRC a bunch of Mitchell's high K rate % had to do with his initial introduction to MLB in 2022 - which was pretty darn limited.  Even with that stretch of late August through end of season 2022, by mid September he seemed to cut back on K's a bit and started hitting the ball with more authority.  He also started the 2023 season looking very much like he belonged in an everyday MLB lineup before that unfortunate injury on the basepaths.

If he can stay on the field, he carries tremendous value as an all-around player.