Braves (Elder) vs Brewers (TBD): 7/30/24, 7:10pm

[LouisEly]

7 minutes ago, 82brewcrew82 said:

DLC is better than the Taylor/Placios combo that he will most likley take at bats from so yes, they got better.  Montas improves nothing on this team.

De La Cruz bWAR 0.2, fWAR 0.1

Taylor bWAR 1.1, fWAR 0.6

De La Cruz is a horrible defender, costs his team runs in the field, and hasn't played significant innings in CF since 2022.  He won't be taking ABs from Taylor.

[yourout]

I really like most of the braves hitting mechanics. Riley in particular has really solid mechanics.

[82brewcrew82]

4 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

Of what?  Monasterio has a higher career OPS vs LHP than Turang has this year.

The lack of confidence in Turang.  Why are we comparing a career to a season.  Turang has been far better this year against LHP, though still not good.

[82brewcrew82]

3 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

De La Cruz bWAR 0.2, fWAR 0.1

Taylor bWAR 1.1, fWAR 0.6

De La Cruz is a horrible defender, costs his team runs in the field, and hasn't played significant innings in CF since 2022.  He won't be taking ABs from Taylor.

Palacios, Tellez against lefties.  Say what you want, he makes them better.  Montas doesn't make the Brewers better.  At least it they tried.

[Bulldogboy]

Brewers needed a bat badly at this deadline. Frustrating that they thought otherwise. I continue to be fascinated with how tightly teams cling to prospects instead of proven players. It's really something. 

[Sixtolezcano]

29 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

Bryan De La Cruz and Jalen Beeks are an effort to improve as much as Frankie Montas is.

LOL

[shanedog19]

Jake Bauers as our 3 hitter, ugh.

[yourout]

Bauer with the golden sombrero.

[82brewcrew82]

2 minutes ago, shanedog19 said:

Jake Bauers as our 3 hitter, ugh.

I mean, Turang one and Bauers 3 is how you start your lineup.  I get the handedness thing but that is a luxury this team doesn't have.

[Gump]

Well,that was lame 

[HarryDoyle]

Might as well call them Milwaukee Brewers FC since 2 is our maximum offensive output lately.

[Jim French Stepstool]

Ross wasn't good tonight, even in the first couple innings when he put up the zeros. He gets an awful lot of the plate w/o much effective movement. Elder, 6-something ERA & all, was really impressive. Our ABs were poor early, then got a little better but not better enough obviously. I know it's frustrating when a guy trots out bad numbers & we don't hit him, but anyone that didn't see he was locating & mixing really well tonight was watching the game on radio. What he was doing earlier to put up the bad numbers, I have no idea. But Ross, I have to wonder if he's still here when the ILs return.

[treego14]

Not crushing Elder

AND

Ross doing a salad toss!

Refunds are due for the fans for this dud!

So humid, the dirt was turning into mud!

The offense was crud!

Would be better off watching a rerun with Elmer Fudd!

[adambr2]

Look, I'm not going to say the Brewers shouldn't be proud of the season they've had with the hand they've been dealt. They absolutely should. 

With that said, every prospective NL playoff team has to be licking their chops at the idea of drawing us for a playoff matchup. I cannot think of a more desirable matchup on paper for any team than drawing us. 

There isn't a hitter in our lineup to be feared or a starting pitcher in our rotation that looks daunting. 

If we can win one playoff series, it'll be a great accomplishment.

[Jim French Stepstool]

1 hour ago, shanedog19 said:

His slash line is .286/.375/.429. I think he’s shown signs of life the whole time he’s been back.

He's looked much better, plate-discipline-wise, all along but wasn't doing much with the balls he's gotten to hit. That's starting to change now. Still looks over-anxious to me w/men on base. It just sucks he's had so few ABs the last year-and-a-half. Probably a big part of why he looks about to turn a corner, then stalls a little bit.

[Jim French Stepstool]

2 hours ago, yourout said:

Been trying to dig up video from earlier in the year and turang has definitely changed his setup and his hand positioning and bat angle during the pitch.

Early in the season he had a relatively quiet hand positioning with a 30° angle or so of the bat behind his shoulders and he was able to get a better look at pitches.

Now he's standing the bat straight up samurai style just like Ortiz then having to reposition. 

Not sure how hitting coaches with access to video for every pitch can't pick up on the stuff.

 

Really good post. Good hitting coaches can't make chicken salad out of, you know, but they can do things that might shorten up or minimize the inevitable cold stretches, especially with a young group. And with the access to video, some of the stuff does seem inexplicable. It's one thing to be pitched differently & adjust, but none of the changes you've noticed could possibly help. A Hoskins, a Yelich, maybe even a guy like Sanchez can understand what's going on & make corrections. Turang & (IMO more glaringly) Ortiz-----you see them struggle, and maybe it's unfair but I look into the dugout & see Connor Dawson & Ozzie Timmons in there with their charts & don't feel a lot of confidence.

[Jim French Stepstool]

17 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

Look, I'm not going to say the Brewers shouldn't be proud of the season they've had with the hand they've been dealt. They absolutely should. 

With that said, every prospective NL playoff team has to be licking their chops at the idea of drawing us for a playoff matchup. I cannot think of a more desirable matchup on paper for any team than drawing us. 

There isn't a hitter in our lineup to be feared or a starting pitcher in our rotation that looks daunting. 

If we can win one playoff series, it'll be a great accomplishment.

In a playoff series they would lean VERY heavily on their bullpen. If it's 100% healthy it could be effective, & it'll be nine or ten deep. With days off baked in they'll need Rae, Peralta, probably Civale & maybe Myers to keep them in games for 4-5 innings. The defense will have to be superb, as it usually is. They more than likely won't be scoring a lot of runs given that playoff teams usually have good pitching, not because we're incapable of scoring runs. The offense, more than anything, is inconsistent & maddingly poor at making corrections & adjustments. Facing a top flite staff exacerbates that.

Your first paragraph is spot-on. Many forget what things looked like on March 30th.

[jason21nl]

3 hours ago, adambr2 said:

Look, I'm not going to say the Brewers shouldn't be proud of the season they've had with the hand they've been dealt. They absolutely should. 

With that said, every prospective NL playoff team has to be licking their chops at the idea of drawing us for a playoff matchup. I cannot think of a more desirable matchup on paper for any team than drawing us. 

There isn't a hitter in our lineup to be feared or a starting pitcher in our rotation that looks daunting. 

If we can win one playoff series, it'll be a great accomplishment.

Smoke and mirrors.   I don’t get it.   They’re not that good yet they somehow win. 

[LouisEly]

10 hours ago, Sixtolezcano said:

LOL

De La Cruz bWAR 0.2, fWAR 0.1

Beeks 0.1 bWAR, 0.3 fWAR

Montas 0.4 bWAR, 0.8 fWAR

Find some stats to back up your LOL.

[LouisEly]

11 hours ago, 82brewcrew82 said:

Palacios, Tellez against lefties.  Say what you want, he makes them better.  Montas doesn't make the Brewers better.  At least it they tried.

Tellez hasn't played a single game at DH this year.

De La Cruz hasn't played a single game at 1B this year.

You might want to look up what positions they play first.

Also, Montas (0.4 bWAR, 0.8 fWAR) replaces Ross (-0.1 bWAR, 0.6 fWAR) which makes them better more than De La Cruz makes them better at DH.

[Sixtolezcano]

On 7/31/2024 at 8:24 AM, LouisEly said:

De La Cruz bWAR 0.2, fWAR 0.1

Beeks 0.1 bWAR, 0.3 fWAR

Montas 0.4 bWAR, 0.8 fWAR

Find some stats to back up your LOL.

Current stats no. However anyone would be a fool not to believe De La Cruz has the most promising future of the other 2 ball players. That’s like saying Blake Perkins (WAR 1.9) and Chourio (WAR 2.0 )are equvalent. Your argument is a Trojan horse LOL. 😆

[LouisEly]

18 minutes ago, Sixtolezcano said:

Current stats no. However anyone would be a fool not to believe De La Cruz has the most promising future of the other 2 ball players.

He's about to turn 28 years old and his OPS has been declining every year. 

He is what he is going to be - a .700 OPS DH.  Not any more valuable than a 4.90 FIP starting pitcher.

[Sixtolezcano]

1 hour ago, LouisEly said:

He's about to turn 28 years old and his OPS has been declining every year. 

He is what he is going to be - a .700 OPS DH.  Not any more valuable than a 4.90 FIP starting pitcher.

So says you. How are you actually backing this up. Montas is more valuable than De La Cruz? Making future De La Cruz predictions based upon nothing. A 31 yo injury prone pitcher with these stats that actually occurred: IP/WHIP/ERA from the past 3 years…  2022 (39.2/1.538/6.35 ), 2023 (1.1/2.250/0.00) and 2024 (93.1/1.436/5.01). Not that impressive, huh?I always thought yo were better than this.