Game 16: Packers @ Vikings - Sunday, Dec. 29th 3:25 PM

[adambr2]

This team is inferior to Minnesota, and the gap is not small.

[HarveysWBs]

NFL coaches can’t manage the clock, like, at all. I’d love to see if playcalling coaches are worse at this than non-play calling ones.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

1 minute ago, yourout said:

Not a good half for Love

Love quietly wasn't very good against New Orleans either. He was off quite a bit. 

[yourout]

Just now, HarveysWBs said:

NFL coaches can’t manage the clock, like, at all. I’d love to see if playcalling coaches are worse at this than non-play calling ones.

That was really pathetic by the Vikings coaches.

[82brewcrew82]

Just now, adambr2 said:

This team is inferior to Minnesota, and the gap is not small.

Yeah, not sure where some of this stuff is coming from but there is clear gap between Philly/Detroit/Minnesota and everyone else.  That Packers are what, 0-5 against that group if they lose this one?  Not all that competetive

[Recovering Chicagoan]

1 minute ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Love quietly wasn't very good against New Orleans either. He was off quite a bit. 

Love has looked very average for a good part of the season.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Not a defensive coordinator but it sure looked like the Packers protected the end zone there and gave up whatever underneath. Which is pretty dumb. It's massive to keep them out of a FG there. 

[adambr2]

1 minute ago, yourout said:

That was really pathetic by the Vikings coaches.

Not as pathetic as that defensive effort leaving Hock wide open over the middle and still allowing them the shot at 3.

[yourout]

Just now, 82brewcrew82 said:

Yeah, not sure where some of this stuff is coming from but there is clear gap between Philly/Detroit/Minnesota and everyone else.  That Packers are what, 0-5 against that group if they lose this one?  Not all that competetive

They all have better QBs and quite a few other pieces as well.

[adambr2]

lol, we are so stupid.

[82brewcrew82]

Just now, yourout said:

They all have better QBs and quite a few other pieces as well.

Exactly, much better teams.

[HarveysWBs]

1 minute ago, adambr2 said:

This team is inferior to Minnesota, and the gap is not small.

Eh, I disagree. Execution is the difference in this one. I don’t think the talent gap is huge. Jefferson is an all-world talent, and Love has made a couple weird decisions, and suffered a couple brutal drops. Then Jacobs fumble to start, and I see a lot of unforced errors. Like on that FG attempt, I guess…

[82brewcrew82]

Good God already.

[HarryDoyle]

Where was the off sides???

[adambr2]

Just now, HarveysWBs said:

Eh, I disagree. Execution is the difference in this one. I don’t think the talent gap is huge. Jefferson is an all-world talent, and Love has made a couple weird decisions, and suffered a couple brutal drops. Then Jacobs fumble to start, and I see a lot of unforced errors. Like on that FG attempt, I guess…

If this was a one off, I’d be inclined to agree with you. It’s not.

This is 5 times.

If you do boneheaded things in 5 straight big games, it’s not really just bad luck anymore, it’s kind of part of your identity.

[yourout]

1 minute ago, HarryDoyle said:

Where was the off sides???

Mahomes was kicking for the vikes.

[HarveysWBs]

Weird officiating. Wicks looked like he backed up before the snap on that 3rd and one, too, and still got called. Not sure what’s going on.

[OldHeidelberg]

2 minutes ago, HarveysWBs said:

Eh, I disagree. Execution is the difference in this one. I don’t think the talent gap is huge. Jefferson is an all-world talent, and Love has made a couple weird decisions, and suffered a couple brutal drops. Then Jacobs fumble to start, and I see a lot of unforced errors. Like on that FG attempt, I guess…

But that has sort of been our Achilles heel all year. The good teams just wait for us to make mistakes.

[yourout]

Just now, HarveysWBs said:

Weird officiating. Wicks looked like he backed up before the snap on that 3rd and one, too, and still got called. Not sure what’s going on.

Hmm... Same ref?

[HarryDoyle]

That was a free three points for Minnesota. Now if they come out of halftime and make it 20-3 the game is all but over. The good news is they seem to play very well in one half of a game and not so much in the other.

[adambr2]

Next big game that we have, MLF should just meet the opposing coach at midfield pregame, allow himself to be pantsed by the opposing coach, trot back to the sidelines, trousers around ankles and save the teams the wear and tear of the actual game.

Can’t play the Saints and Spencer Rattler every week, Matt.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Just now, HarveysWBs said:

Eh, I disagree. Execution is the difference in this one. I don’t think the talent gap is huge. Jefferson is an all-world talent, and Love has made a couple weird decisions, and suffered a couple brutal drops. Then Jacobs fumble to start, and I see a lot of unforced errors. Like on that FG attempt, I guess…

It's just an IGT thing to make the Packers sound like the worst team in the NFL any game they're losing. Even if it's by like 7 points. 

That said, I think the Packers have habitually been flat, with a lot of these kinds of mistakes in these huge games quite a bit this year that there is valid criticism to be made. 

To me, it just looks like a good team that is, young, and still on the upswing, but not ready for the brightest lights quite yet. On offense they lack a receiver that really scares anyone and defensively they rush inconsistently and lack a playmaker in the middle. 

[82brewcrew82]

2 minutes ago, OldHeidelberg said:

But that has sort of been our Achilles heel all year. The good teams just wait for us to make mistakes.

And we oblige in spades.  I don't get these arguments that execution isn't part of what makes good teams good and bad teams bad.

[HarveysWBs]

2 minutes ago, yourout said:

Hmm... Same ref?

Probably, since they’re both line calls. It’s really ticky-tack.

[adambr2]

Better root for Atlanta tonight. They may be our only hope of avoiding Philly in round 1.