Brendan Rodgers from the Rockies

[Scooterfletcher]

He has some things going for him and some against.   Would he be a guy we might want to add to our infield mix.   Color me intrigued if nothing more…

[bigred]

No thanks. He's a former top 20 MLB prospect(or was it top 10?) that's been pretty bad in the Majors, ever since he was called up. Imo, he's a typical 4A, and always will be.

You seem to be intrigued by every player/prospect out there, No matter how bad they've been. 

[Scooterfletcher]

I am intrigued by anyone I feel is an upgrade to our roster, and I believe him to be better than Monasario.   
 

And Red, this is a transaction proposal forum.   Where people can throw out any idea and name they wish just to discuss.   I feel you should hang at the major league forum which is actual news and happenings.   I don’t think this one is for you .   But do as you wish. 

[bigred]

5 minutes ago, Scooterfletcher said:

I am intrigued by anyone I feel is an upgrade to our roster, and I believe him to be better than Monasario.   
 

And Red, this is a transaction proposal forum.   Where people can throw out any idea and name they wish just to discuss.   I feel you should hang at the major league forum which is actual news and happenings.   I don’t think this one is for you .   But do as you 

But that's the thing. He wouldn't be an upgrade. Maybe try and post about players that could/would receive much more playing time, than a mere bench player like Monestario, that barely plays, unless the game is in the bag already, 

[Devinep]

3 minutes ago, bigred said:

But that's the thing. He wouldn't be an upgrade. Maybe try and post about players that could/would receive much more playing time, than a mere bench player like Monestario, that barely plays, unless the game is in the bag already, 

Brendan Rodgers is objectively an upgrade over Monastario 

[bigred]

2 minutes ago, Devinep said:

Brendan Rodgers is objectively an upgrade over Monastario 

In your opinion. I doubt many here, will agree that he'd be an upgrade. To each their own, though. 

[bigred]

The Crew has much more important weaknesses, than finding an "upgrade" for Monastario. 

[Scooterfletcher]

12 minutes ago, bigred said:

The Crew has much more important weaknesses, than finding an "upgrade" for Monastario. 

Please elaborate on this and throw some positions and names out so that I can respond to your ideas in the same way that you respond to mine.   Nah, you aren’t up for that though.   

[wntrtxn21]

I think Rodgers salary demands are going to be too high for a bench type guy. They can get a guy like Moncada much cheaper. If they have to start Moncada at 3B then use Durbin and Black (barring a trade) along with Perkins & Haase for the bench. I don't see Monastario making the 26-man roster. 

[Devinep]

25 minutes ago, bigred said:

In your opinion. I doubt many here, will agree that he'd be an upgrade. To each their own, though. 

No, not in my opinion. According to WAR, OBP, SLG, OPS+, DRS

[sveumrules]

29 minutes ago, wntrtxn21 said:

I think Rodgers salary demands are going to be too high for a bench type guy. They can get a guy like Moncada much cheaper.

Rodgers made $3.2M last year and the Rockies non tendered him with a $5.5M Arby's projection from MLBTR, so his salary will likely come down somewhere around that range.

Not sure where Moncada ends up, but assuming the medicals aren't too disastrous I'd imagine he'll get more than Rodgers due to having a higher upside with seasons of 3.7 and 5.2 WAR under his belt versus 1.8 WAR for Brendan's career high.

Only thing Rodgers really brings to the table at this point is he is still decent against LHP with a 106 wRC+ over 200 PAs against southpaws the last two years, though that is a notable drop off from the 142 wRC+ he posted against LHP over 307 PAs from 2021-22.

Otherwise he's a negative base runner, negative fielder at 2B outside of one outlier DRS season, no positional versatility, 76 wRC+ versus RHP the last four years over 1,220 PAs.

That's a whole lot of meh with the only real upside being if he rebounded to his 2021-22 levels of lefty mashing.

[bigred]

52 minutes ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Please elaborate on this and throw some positions and names out so that I can respond to your ideas in the same way that you respond to mine.   Nah, you aren’t up for that though.   

How about 3rd base? Or if Ortiz stays at 3rd, they'll need to find a SS. We need to replace some power after losing Adames. Could use another SP. Wanna hear more? 

[bigred]

57 minutes ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Please elaborate on this and throw some positions and names out so that I can respond to your ideas in the same way that you respond to mine.   Nah, you aren’t up for that though.   

I'm done wasting my time explaining things to you, because you obviously don't understand the points many on here make to you, nor do you even want to attempt to understand. 

[bigred]

49 minutes ago, Devinep said:

No, not in my opinion. According to WAR, OBP, SLG, OPS+, DRS

Have you seen him play at all the past few years, or is it just because you've heard of him before, during his prospect days? He's been pretty bad. Again, no thanks. 

[CheeseheadInQC]

The other issue is Rodgers went full Rockies the last couple seasons, basically only hitting in Colorado. Does anyone know if there is usually a hangover from that for the more mediocre hitters or do they snap back to more balanced production fairly quickly? Because if it usually takes a while I would rather be the team that gives him a minor league deal in 2026 than endure the struggles this year.

[jay87shot]

Rodgers interesting with some past strong seasons, prospect pedigree, and gold glove 2022. However has as many warnings as positives hits way better in Coors, injuries, and defensive regression. I would be ok with him on a cheap (3-4 million) deal as a utility/LHP platoon but I would have a ton of faith in him. 

[Devinep]

1 hour ago, bigred said:

Have you seen him play at all the past few years, or is it just because you've heard of him before, during his prospect days? He's been pretty bad. Again, no thanks. 

I’m not even advocating for rodgers unless for cheap, but I find it weird that you asked why I think he’s better in direct response to a quote in which I started the things in which Rodgers is better than Monastario 

[bigred]

6 minutes ago, Devinep said:

I’m not even advocating for rodgers unless for cheap, but I find it weird that you asked why I think he’s better in direct response to a quote in which I started the things in which Rodgers is better than Monastario 

Sure. 3+ years ago. He's been on a pretty consistent decline with most of those #'s since. Have a nice day. 

[wallus]

You guys, Rodgers is a .631 career hitter away from Coors.... pass except for a minor league deal.

[Devinep]

2 hours ago, bigred said:

Sure. 3+ years ago. He's been on a pretty consistent decline with most of those #'s since. Have a nice day. 

Not 3+ years ago. He was better than Monastario in all those categories in 2024

[wiguy94]

No

[MNBrew]

22 hours ago, Scooterfletcher said:

He has some things going for him and some against.   Would he be a guy we might want to add to our infield mix.   Color me intrigued if nothing more…

Overall, if his non-Coors numbers are notably worse, I'm inclined to think there may be others middle IFs out there who could be more appealing.  If his price truly isn't crazy high, and if other more appealing options don't materialize, maybe circumstances play the Brewers into the mix.

Tyler Black has also been a highly touted prospect.  There are reasons to be skeptical there, too, but he has hardly fully dis-proved himself, either, and he's as inexpensive as he (or anyone) could possibly be at this point.  Vinny Capra doesn't excite me, nor does the 2024 version of Monasterio.  I'm not a betting man, but Oliver Dunn or Isaac Collins don't have any big claim staked going into ST, either.

Per baseball-reference.com, Rodgers & I were born in the same hospital and he graduated from the same HS as a couple of my siblings -- all of which makes me smile, though I'm not any more sold on him as a potential Brewer.

I wouldn't be surprised if nothing happens (well, Alex Bregman would be cool -- seemingly beyond unlikely but still fun to dream), but it also wouldn't surprise if Matt Arnold & Co. come up with one more surprising darkhorse for the mix.

[Scooterfletcher]

7 hours ago, bigred said:

Disagreeing with someone's opinion doesn't automatically mean they're being "confrontational". It's called a discussion/debate. Seems like you're just trying to stir up drama. 

Ok let’s talk about Rodgers some more and not about not liking 100 percent of every idea I have.   Not 95 percent but 100 percent while not starting any threads or offering names of guys you like.   Any other posts on this thread should be on Rodgers as that’s who I wanted to discuss here.

While not a huge improvement maybe, we might win one game more having Rodgers rather than Monstatio and that might be what is needed to win the central.   While yes I agree we need help at SS/3B with an above average starter so that Durbin can start out as a utility guy, we might not find that guy or have the money and so a lesser incremental improvement (Rodgers over Monasario) might be unfortunately our best hope of getting better.  

[Lloyd330]

On 1/10/2025 at 10:15 AM, bigred said:

Have you seen him play at all the past few years, or is it just because you've heard of him before, during his prospect days? He's been pretty bad. Again, no thanks. 

 

From 2022, but this is a upgrade over many people on our roster

[bigred]

18 minutes ago, Lloyd330 said:

 

From 2022, but this is a upgrade over many people on our roster

He's not worth the $$ he'll get, to come off the bench once in a great while. No thanks.