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12 hours ago, izzi said:

Brewers don't seem to like Yoho as much as I do. If that's the case, give him a chance elsewhere, and do it now while he's unhittable in Triple A for max value.

He'll stay unhittable in AAA, but he needs to add some more strikes in the zone if he's going to get MLB hitters in bad counts. 

I don't love the 92-93 MPH FB relievers who rely on a Change, MLB hitters can catch up to it, but I don't think they're giving up on Yoho, I think they're trying to work with him. We should also realize how little he's pitched. 

Though also...this wouldn't break my heart if I'm beind honest. I think we have enough power arms, if you can get a team to actually value Yoho, do it. I just don't think you'll be able to. They saw him, they have the same scouting reports. But in the event that I'm wrong (which I remember happening...2 or 3 times in the last.... decade or so) definitely do it.

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Of all the names here, most are "sell low" currently, which is not the best way to manage assets. Now some may need a change of scenario type of move (Black, Rodriguez) as they are lower prospect value now then they had any time point, but are also blocked (Black hasn't hit his way onto the scene, is limited to LF and maybe 1B and there are a plethora of people who can handle those positions as that is where the least defensively able usually go), and Rodriguez has multiple starters in front and behind him, and his versatility and young age may attract someone.

Sell high guys are tough, since you hope they are not at the peak and want to keep, but also most prospects don't succeed. So Wilken (obviously the injury will hamper any trade talk) and Crow (minor injury right now I hope) are the types you want to keep as guys with 30 HR minor league power are valuable, and Crow has a plus pitch and is heading to AAA. But those are the best "chips" amongst this group. And I would trade only for a great package (ie another younger controllable MLB ready player)

Burke is healthy, is in a stacked field (lots of possible 1B/DH types) who has hit but not shown the power. Was a 1st rounder, so could be a very tradable asset, much like Matt LaPorta (Burke is a better overall hitter from a contact approach and a better fielder), but he could be moved in a big trade. But also could be the future Brewer 1st baseman for the next 6-8 years.

Quintana is too young and raw, but is turning things around. He would be like a Jhonny Severino trade asset, may not get you a lot (2 months of Carlos Santana) and occasionally these turn into Freddy Peralta all star lottery tickets but most don't. I doubt he gets moved unless another team (one who may have been scouting him as a IFA) really wants him as the return on a trade.

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3 minutes ago, biedergb said:

Quintana is too young and raw, but is turning things around. He would be like a Jhonny Severino trade asset, may not get you a lot (2 months of Carlos Santana) and occasionally these turn into Freddy Peralta all star lottery tickets but most don't. I doubt he gets moved unless another team (one who may have been scouting him as a IFA) really wants him as the return on a trade.

** See Hendry Mendez (traded for Oliver Dunn) who was basically our equivalent of a Lameda, Alastre, Rodriguez, DiTuri, etc who is now looking good as a 21 year old in AA.

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I think an analysis of who might be traded is fun and possible, but this seems a bit like throwing out a list of names without any clear set of criteria for inclusion. A trade including Wilken is going to be very different from one including Tyler Black. I mean, it's a little bit, I don't like this guy as much as someone else in the system, and a little bit, he's not doing well and I don't think we need him. In the first case, saying a player in the complex league hasn't had the immediate impact that unicorns Made and Pina have, well, that's 99.5% of players.  

The latter (guys who have lost their prospect gleam) isn't going to be of much value in the trade market; I really don't think you fleece GMs any more. (Maybe Buster Posey is stuck making deals using an old paper copy of Baseball America or something?) Someone who might be trading for Tyler Black knows he's seen his prospect luster fade, and will presumably not be paying top dollar for an asset on which the Brewers seem to place little value. 

Wilken and Burke should have some value if dealt, but the logic here seems incomplete. I don't think the Brewers have necessarily decided who their future corner IF are, but if they have it isn't based on media prospect lists. Including Wilken and Burke because, for example, Wilken is lower than Boeve or Adams on the MLB.com list (which was made before the season IIRC) just doesn't seem like the way the Brewers do business. They aren't afraid to move on from a draft pick (e.g., Binelas, Moore) but neither Burke nor Wilken fit that pattern. OK, maybe if there's a big deal coming one of those guys is dealt, but we can see from recent lineups that Wilken is the priority 3B over the other two, and that means a lot more than an old mlb.com list.

(Also, saying Burke is like a Jeff Cirillo who hits left handed and can't play 3b?)

When Jim / Mass does the Rule 5 list, that is an important starting point. The Brewers seem willing to trade anyone across the system, including recent draft choices, but a mini-trend is anticipating Rule 5 crunch and being proactive. The Nick Mears trade is a nice example, Yujanyer Herrera signed in 2019 and so was going to be Rule 5 eligible despite only reaching A+, so despite his success he was used in a deal. I don't think that was a matter of thinking he was not in future plans or worse than someone else, but rather a matter of balancing risk and roster spots. (Which, as has been litigated extensively, were at a premium at Rule 5 time.)

In that sense Crow is very possibly on a list of tradable assets, though they've invested a bit in him in terms of trade and waiting out his injury. They have to protect him or risk losing him in Rule 5, and might have some tough choices to make. Others in that boat in AAA are EMJ and Seigler, maybe even Freddy Zamora if someone likes what they see. In AA you have Cornielle who seems like a sell-high candidate in the Justin Jarvis vein, maybe Ethan Murray or Yeager too. None of those are really high value assets I think but there is a history of the Brewers moving guys like this (see Cam Devanney). The fun / pain comes when you look at lower level players who will be rule 5 eligible and are playing well, in the vein of Herrera. There aren't that many, really, but Exhibit A is Jadher Arenaimo.

We also have some guys with roster spots and options that might have some value, notably Myers but it's not impossible that a team might think that Hudson or Peguero could patch a bullpen hole for them. There have been a few roster cleanup moves in recent years, e.g., Urias or Alex Jackson, so maybe that's the move you see for Tyler Black.

I think this might be a quieter deadline for the Brewers, honestly, but Arenaimo, Cornielle, Myers seem like names that might shake something loose in a medium profile deal if it comes to that. 

The painful question is who is the Reece Olsen who gets shipped out in exchange for a few bad relief innings?

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On 6/26/2025 at 12:36 PM, jay87shot said:

Meh, I wouldn't trade Black just because his value is so low.

LOL, don't trade him because he is so bad, that's a new one. 

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55 minutes ago, Brian said:

LOL, don't trade him because he is so bad, that's a new one. 

It's a new one because nobody said that. 

He said he wouldn't trade him because his VALUE is low...due to injury to start the season and then limited time.

Similar to how other posters said you'd be selling low on ALMOST everyone on that list. 

 

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15 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

It's a new one because nobody said that. 

He said he wouldn't trade him because his VALUE is low...due to injury to start the season and then limited time.

Similar to how other posters said you'd be selling low on ALMOST everyone on that list. 

 

Watching the game now. 

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10 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

He said he wouldn't trade him because his VALUE is low...due to injury to start the season and then limited time.

I agree, not the best time to look to shop him or try to trade for best value.

Arnold and staff/scouts will have to decide on whether they think he can get back on track and reclaim his prospect value. So trading now is not best time to trade to maximize his value, but whether that value can increase is unknown, however if someone calls asking for him I wouldn’t say no.

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10 minutes ago, Brian said:

Watch the game. 

👍

1 minute ago, biedergb said:

I agree, not the best time to look to shop him or try to trade for best value.

Arnold and staff/scouts will have to decide on whether they think he can get back on track and reclaim his prospect value. So trading now is not best time to trade to maximize his value, but whether that value can increase is unknown, however if someone calls asking for him I wouldn’t say no.

I'd listen to any offer for any player... but it'd have to make sense. 

I still think Black can be a contributor to next years team... 

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