LeMahieu for Hoskins, who says no?

[Scooterfletcher]

I probably spelled his name wrong and a mod can edit but would you take DJs versatility and added salary over Hoskins?   DJ was df’d btw.

[wiguy94]

No

[ghostdrew]

No way answer this how's is DJ better than hoskins

[Scooterfletcher]

Versatility is the only reason,  And in throwing out there literally since it kinda makes sense, haven’t thought about it.

If the money is equal who says no?

[wiguy94]

3 minutes ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Versatility is the only reason,  And in throwing out there literally since it kinda makes sense, haven’t thought about it.

If the money is equal who says no?

It makes absolutely no sense. He's terrible and has another year on his contract. 

[liveforoctober]

What?

[Scooterfletcher]

57 minutes ago, liveforoctober said:

What?

If the money cancels out LeMeighu or Hoskins with a wash on the contract money?

[brewmann04]

Ryhs being hurt put a damper on a trade   

[patrickgpe]

DJ was DFA’d. if he isn’t traded and clears waivers, I think it makes sense if he wants to join a contender if his contract demands are reasonable. 

[liveforoctober]

2 hours ago, Scooterfletcher said:

If the money cancels out LeMeighu or Hoskins with a wash on the contract money?

I understand what you are saying but let me think out loud here for a second. You are asking if we should trade our starting first baseman to the Yankees for their backup 2nd baseman that they just released who has said he can't play 3rd anymore... in hopes he will start at 1st base for us to replace Hoskins? Or are we trading Hoskins so DJ can play 2b and Turang can move to short and then Bauers/Vaughn will handle the 1b duties? I am not sure either one of those scenarios makes us better and I would argue both make us worse.

The Yankees would also need to send us like $14 million or something to cover the difference.

I know we are just making up trade scenarios for the exercise of it .. but I don't think we need to try so hard to force a trade on this team. We should only be making trades that are clear upgrades... sometimes not making a move is the right move.

[Scooterfletcher]

Good last post.   I guess my thought is if we believe in Vaughn/Bauers being as good or better for the rest of the year than Hoskins, that DJ would be a better super sub for us thus upgrading the roster while not adding money.

[liveforoctober]

2 minutes ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Good last post.   I guess my thought is if we believe in Vaughn/Bauers being as good or better for the rest of the year than Hoskins, that DJ would be a better super sub for us thus upgrading the roster while not adding money.

I gotcha. I guess my response is that if we trade Rhys for DJ it would likely be Mona that gets released.

So would I rather have Rhys/Mona or Vaughn/Lemahieu on the roster .. and I guess I would rather have Rhys/Mona because Mona can play 3rd and Vaughn needs to prove it beyond 10 at bats that this all was Chicago's fault.

If Vaughn hits for 4 more weeks.. maybe we can revisit. Also, let DJ clear waivers and just grab him!

[Brewer77]

59 minutes ago, liveforoctober said:

I gotcha. I guess my response is that if we trade Rhys for DJ it would likely be Mona that gets released.

So would I rather have Rhys/Mona or Vaughn/Lemahieu on the roster .. and I guess I would rather have Rhys/Mona because Mona can play 3rd and Vaughn needs to prove it beyond 10 at bats that this all was Chicago's fault.

If Vaughn hits for 4 more weeks.. maybe we can revisit. Also, let DJ clear waivers and just grab him!

The last sentence is what puts this whole conversation to rest. No team is trading for his contract. There’s no need to give up Hoskins when they could just sign him for a small number if they really wanted to (which is highly unlikely that they do)

[duewizard]

I would not hate signing LeMahieu for the minimum now that he has been released

[umphrey]

I can’t believe how much Hoskins gets trashed around here despite being kind of an average 1B with a 115 wRC+ and 1.1 WAR

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

7 minutes ago, umphrey said:

I can’t believe how much Hoskins gets trashed around here despite being kind of an average 1B with a 115 wRC+ and 1.1 WAR

Considering 1B has been a turnstyle pretty much ever since Fielder was dealt, Hoskins has been fine. It's nice having a stick there that other teams at least have to account for.

[Scooterfletcher]

4 hours ago, umphrey said:

I can’t believe how much Hoskins gets trashed around here despite being kind of an average 1B with a 115 wRC+ and 1.1 WAR

I guess my idea was the big “if” of our brain trust liking Vaughn/Bauers better two weeks from now, that we’d be cleared of his buyout and option.

[BrewerFan]

On 7/9/2025 at 6:23 PM, wiguy94 said:

It makes absolutely no sense. He's terrible and has another year on his contract. 

I'll take him after he clears waivers... maybe. He'd been crushing the ball in June, but...pass on this.

8 hours ago, umphrey said:

I can’t believe how much Hoskins gets trashed around here despite being kind of an average 1B with a 115 wRC+ and 1.1 WAR

Yeah, it's a little frustrating with the injury and him not being able to keep it going when he has gotten hot for one reason or another, but I still think he can be a big bat down the stretch and in the post-season. 

 

[wiguy94]

11 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

I'll take him after he clears waivers... maybe. He'd been crushing the ball in June, but...pass on this.

He really wasn't crushing the ball. Just extremely good batted ball luck. Since June 1st he has a .338 wOBA vs a .303 xwOBA with a .419 BABIP. Also only 4 XBH in 96 PA so basically just purely singles which for a station to station runner like him isn't good.

[patrickgpe]

17 hours ago, duewizard said:

I would not hate signing LeMahieu for the minimum now that he has been released

i could argue he is better than all IF's on the trade market less Suarez. 

[gregmag]

He just looks like he’s done.  He’s 36. He was last good when he was 33. He’s limited to first and second base, so not a super-sub, and he’s quite a bit worse than the guys we have at both of those positions. If I needed a sub or a pinch-hitter right now, I’d prefer Monasterio.

I’m not a big Hoskins fan. I’m less enthusiastic than some people here about guys who can occasionally hit home runs in bunches but can’t really do anything else. However, that’s not quite fair, because Hoskins does see a lot of pitches and draw some walks. He’s okay; I’m just not sure how much you lose moving from Hoskins to a Vaughn-Bauers platoon. I guess we’re about to find out.

 

[Roderick]

On 7/9/2025 at 8:35 PM, patrickgpe said:

DJ was DFA’d. if he isn’t traded and clears waivers, I think it makes sense if he wants to join a contender if his contract demands are reasonable. 

Doesn't whatever team a DFA'd player goes to only pay the prorated minimum salary?  With the club that cut him paying the rest of his contract?

[patrickgpe]

1 hour ago, Roderick said:

Doesn't whatever team a DFA'd player goes to only pay the prorated minimum salary?  With the club that cut him paying the rest of his contract?

i know he has 22MM guaranteed from the Yankees. I am not certain if the new salary gets deducted from that amount. I know thats how it used to work last CBA. 

[wiguy94]

1 hour ago, Roderick said:

Doesn't whatever team a DFA'd player goes to only pay the prorated minimum salary?  With the club that cut him paying the rest of his contract?

If the player is claimed off waivers then the new team is entirely responsible for the salary. DJ wasn't claimed on waivers so the Yankees just straight up released him so they are on the hook for everything outside of the prorated minimum the rest of this year and next.

[BrewerFan]

On 7/10/2025 at 11:53 PM, wiguy94 said:

He really wasn't crushing the ball. Just extremely good batted ball luck. Since June 1st he has a .338 wOBA vs a .303 xwOBA with a .419 BABIP. Also only 4 XBH in 96 PA so basically just purely singles which for a station to station runner like him isn't good.

Ok, fair enough. I just saw a stat line...it was like .313 and...well, I don't really remember, just that it made it a little surprising they didn't really try and trade him and find a team to eat even 5-6M.

I went through it and there's just...nothing there. He's a veteran RHH and maybe that could help, but I don't know who you'd demote. If-IF you demoted Ortiz for a few weeks, he could slide in...I guess. 

 

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@patrickgpe
i could argue he is better than all IF's on the trade market less Suarez. 

I just tried to, but when you go and look at the numbers, they're ugly the last few years. He doesn't even hit LHPing better than RH'ed pitching. 

The best I can come up with is IF-IF the Brewers think Ke'Bryan Hayes has something in his game they can unlock, he's an elite defender at 3B and he's got decent bat speed and his contract is not onerous(though... you're betting you can get more value for him and flip him in a year or two.

Anyone I can think of beyond that is a 1B/DH.

If he's better... the IF market is bad.