Brewers at Cubs; Wednesday, August 20 @ 7:05 p.m.: Jacob Misiorowski (3.89 ERA, 3.29 FIP) vs. Colin Rea (3.99 ERA, 4.61 FIP)

[Brewluver]

5 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

I didn’t give us a win. I said we could. It’s 50/50, like a lot of MLB games.

Reading comprehension (and math, for that matter) not really your thing, I’ve noticed, yeah.

You're talking about "math" to me ??

Go look up the odds for tomorrow's game, (Not 50/50)

Why are you being such a dick, I have nothing against you ??

[BCF]

2 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

Yes, close LOW SCORING games which gets back to my point earlier about concerns about the hitting. Going back to Saturday, and not counting runs scored in extra innings that are aided by the free runner, and the Brewers have scored 2, 2, 7, 4, 1, and 3.

That looks like a slump for a team that is near the top of the league in scoring. If the hitters can’t turn things around soon it’s going to be trouble, especially against  better teams.

I share the comments some have made raising the concern that this might be a preview of the Brewers playoff offense. 

The cubs have a very good pitching staff…my god you guys are bunch of whiners

[adambr2]

1 minute ago, BCF said:

In July he had 7 BB in 4 starts. How is that bad? A guy who throws 101 mph is gonna have control problems at times

My concern is the “times” often being clumped together. That’s what leads to the big innings and what we’ve seen the last two starts and cost us. That seems psychological.

[wallus]

Offense could really use Jackson or Collins to be that ROY player

[Jim French Stepstool]

8 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

I’m not saying he can’t get past it.

But I am saying, he has to get past it to be an effective MLB pitcher. Tonight can’t keep happening.

Definitely. To me he just hasn't yet reached the point of no longer getting a turn. 

Bringing him straight here w/o a rehab start(s) is looking like a mistake, although at that time the options weren't what they were earlier

[BCF]

Based on “deserved to win” metrics the Brewers have beaten the Cubs 3/4 games. The Cubs have had everything go right for them the last 3 games. Brewers are smoking the ball right at them. Contreras last 12 outs 10 of them have been 100 mph ev or higher 

 

In 162 game season you’re gonna have a lot of ups and downs and good/bad stretches.. it’s baseball

[adambr2]

4 minutes ago, Brewluver said:

You're talking about "math" to me ??

Go look up the odds for tomorrow's game, (Not 50/50)

Why are you being such a dick, I have nothing against you ??

Nobody is being a dick to you. We have a very important game against the Cubs tomorrow that we’d all like to win, and you’ve said we should just accept the loss and start focusing on the Giants. Of course you’re going to get called out on that.

[Brewluver]

6 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

They’ve gotten traffic on and been hitting into a lot of loud outs. 

So what exactly is a "loud out"

[brewcrewdue80]

5 minutes ago, Brewluver said:

You're talking about "math" to me ??

Go look up the odds for tomorrow's game, (Not 50/50)

Why are you being such a dick, I have nothing against you ??

Just the Cubs being the home team gives them better odds to win.  I'd never consider pregame odds in Baseball to support your argument. Like why are you pulling out the pregame odds to support a Cubs W projection?  Guarantee you not 1 game at Dodgers the odds were for Milw. 

[adambr2]

3 minutes ago, Brewluver said:

So what exactly is a "loud out"

A hard hit ball with a high exit velocity 

[treego14]

Adam McCalvy on X: "What would Christian Yelich say to Brewers fans feeling angsty after three straight losses to the Cubs? “Who cares?” Before you take that answer completely out of context, hear him out. https://t.co/oVHnINqEoR" / X
https://x.com/AdamMcCalvy/status/1958367156015612400

[Jim French Stepstool]

10 minutes ago, brewcrewdue80 said:

Just the Cubs being the home team gives them better odds to win.  I'd never consider pregame odds in Baseball to support your argument. Like why are you pulling out the pregame odds to support a Cubs W projection?  Guarantee you not 1 game at Dodgers the odds were for Milw. 

Yeah, when the amount of money bet by ordinary Joes flowing to one side or the other is used to project the winner of a baseball game, it's time to say goodnight.

[BCF]

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@hunterbonair

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Pat Murphy said he told the team after the game how proud he was of them and sometimes things just don’t go your way. “We showed tremendous heart. Tremendous relentlessness.”

[adambr2]

5 hours ago, brewcrewdue80 said:

Just the Cubs being the home team gives them better odds to win.  I'd never consider pregame odds in Baseball to support your argument. Like why are you pulling out the pregame odds to support a Cubs W projection?  Guarantee you not 1 game at Dodgers the odds were for Milw. 

@Brewluveris a Cubs fan who came here to revel last night. Go through his posting history and it becomes obvious.

Just joined less than a month ago. Knows nothing substantial about the Brewers. Generic fakey handle. Only posts during Cub games. Constantly defending/complimenting the Cubs and Illinois teams in general. Mentions more specific Cub players than Brewer players.

Get this guy and his act out of here.

[BruisedCrew]

6 hours ago, BCF said:

The cubs have a very good pitching staff…my god you guys are bunch of whiners

Yes, the Cubs have a good pitching staff. As will teams in the playoffs. The runs aren’t going to come as easily against playoff teams as they do against the bullpens of teams like the Pirates and Nationals. 

I think the whiners are the people who make excuses for losses by complaining about umpiring, and citing things like exit velocity and “deserve to win” measures only when the team loses.

It’s baseball. Not “let’s see who can hit the ball the hardest right at the defense”. 

This team will be tested in the weeks ahead by how they respond when not everything is going their way.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

45 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

@Brewluveris a Cubs fan who came here to revel last night. Go through his posting history and it becomes obvious.

Just joined less than a month ago. Knows nothing substantial about the Brewers. Generic fakey handle. Only posts during Cub games. Constantly defending/complimenting the Cubs and Illinois teams in general. Mentions more specific Cub players than Brewer players.

Get this guy and his act out of here.

What a bizarre thing to do lol

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Just now, BruisedCrew said:

Yes, the Cubs have a good pitching staff. As will teams in the playoffs. 

I think the whiners are the people who make excuses for losses by complaining about umpiring, and citing things like exit velocity and “deserve to win” measures only when the team loses. 

It’s baseball. Not “let’s see who can hit the ball the hardest right at the defense”. 

Brewers lost a couple hard-fought games to the Cubs, with some patchwork lineups and pitching moves you'd never see in October. It is what it is. But the Cubs are like a game off having the 3rd best record in baseball. It's not like we're losing to a crap team.

A loss is a loss, but I am with Yelich. This is pretty much how you want to lose and who you want to lose to, if you're going to lose. I haven't seen anything that's overly concerning.

[BruisedCrew]

38 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Brewers lost a couple hard-fought games to the Cubs, with some patchwork lineups and pitching moves you'd never see in October. It is what it is. But the Cubs are like a game off having the 3rd best record in baseball. It's not like we're losing to a crap team.

A loss is a loss, but I am with Yelich. This is pretty much how you want to lose and who you want to lose to, if you're going to lose. I haven't seen anything that's overly concerning.

I can’t buy the idea that the Cubs are “who you want to lose to”.

That’s like telling an Ohio State football fan that Michigan is the kind of team you want to lose to.

 

[Brian]

7 hours ago, Brewluver said:

So what exactly is a "loud out"

A loud out is a squared up, hard hit ball that is an out. 

[adambr2]

25 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

I can’t buy the idea that the Cubs are “who you want to lose to”.

That’s like telling an Ohio State football fan that Michigan is the kind of team you want to lose to.

 

All he means is that even in the circumstance, we lost a few competitive baseball games to another high caliber playoff team, probably top 5 in all of baseball. That’s all. It’s not like we lost ugly baseball games to the Colorado Rockies. Obviously he’s not saying it’s fun to drop games to your rival. 

I’m mildly concerned about Miz. Other than that I don’t really have any big concerns from this series of things that look problematic going forward.

[Brian]

12 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

I’m mildly concerned about Miz. Other than that I don’t really have any big concerns from this series of things that look problematic going forward.

I am also, his ERA is just climbing and climbing and has a 4 inning max if he is lucky. Sounds more like reliever material of some type at this point. 

[adambr2]

16 minutes ago, Brian said:

I am also, his ERA is just climbing and climbing and has a 4 inning max if he is lucky. Sounds more like reliever material of some type at this point. 

It did not take much for the rotation to go from looking like a big surplus to relatively thin. I can’t see continuing to start Miz right now. 

I think we are going to need to count on Gasser for some big innings in September.

[BruisedCrew]

53 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

All he means is that even in the circumstance, we lost a few competitive baseball games to another high caliber playoff team, probably top 5 in all of baseball. That’s all. It’s not like we lost ugly baseball games to the Colorado Rockies. Obviously he’s not saying it’s fun to drop games to your rival. 

I’m mildly concerned about Miz. Other than that I don’t really have any big concerns from this series of things that look problematic going forward.

I understand that.

But if people don’t understand that the reaction to losing 3 straight games to the hated rival that is chasing your team for a division title is going to be stronger than losing 3 straight to almost any other team, especially another decent team, that’s too bad. 
 

[adambr2]

Not an easy play, but Vaughn is a hack on defense.

[brewcrewdue80]

6 hours ago, Brian said:

I am also, his ERA is just climbing and climbing and has a 4 inning max if he is lucky. Sounds more like reliever material of some type at this point. 

Miz came in to the game already exceeding his innings pitched last season and added to it last night.  Isn't the typical progression 30 innings the following season? Would put him at 25? 26 innings left this season.