Phillies at Brewers; Monday, September 1 @ 3:10 p.m.: Jacob Misiorowski (4.33 ERA, 3.14 FIP) vs. Taijuan Walker (3.63 ERA, 4.66 FIP)

[adambr2]

Lost in most of this, I assume the Shelby Miller era is over in Milwaukee.

Certainly not what we hoped for. I can’t say that anything we did at the deadline this year turned out to be particularly impactful. 

[Brewluver]

4 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

I assume the Shelby Miller era is over in Milwaukee.

She'll be fine !!  🤣

[treego14]

13 minutes ago, Brewluver said:

She'll be fine !!  🤣

Such a low blow ... you must go!

[treego14]

19 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

Lost in most of this, I assume the Shelby Miller era is over in Milwaukee.

Certainly not what we hoped for. I can’t say that anything we did at the deadline this year turned out to be particularly impactful. 

Does the Vaughn for Civale deal not count?

[adambr2]

1 minute ago, treego14 said:

Does the Vaughn for Civale deal not count?

I mean it counts as a deal, though not a deadline deal, and Vaughn had some tremendously impactful moments this summer.

I think it’s fair to question though whether he’s going to be a long-term impact guy here rather than more of a Rowdy Tellez-like fun flash in the pan.

[Recovering Chicagoan]

52 minutes ago, SomewhereInTime said:

Another thing people need to understand is it isn't the end of the world if the Cubs pull off the miracle comeback.  It isn't the old days where season is over if you don't win the division.  They could lose every game the rest of the way and still probably get in the postseason.  The WC bye would be nice but you still have to win NLDS and NLCS to get to WS.

It also wouldn't necessarily be a good thing to clinch in two weeks and then have two weeks of meaningless baseball and then a full weak off between the season and NLDS.

I guess what I'm saying is I want them to win the division but don't want the race to be easy and over quickly this month.

Even when we were riding the high of the 14-game winning streak, I still would think how difficult it is to win the World Series. So many things have to go the Brewers' way. It often seems like it may never happen, yet I realize it likely will happen at some point in the future. Maybe not in my lifetime, though, and I'm 49. 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

7 minutes ago, Recovering Chicagoan said:

Even when we were riding the high of the 14-game winning streak, I still would think how difficult it is to win the World Series. So many things have to go the Brewers' way. It often seems like it may never happen, yet I realize it likely will happen at some point in the future. Maybe not in my lifetime, though, and I'm 49. 

I'm dreading the night we don't win the World Series and I have to read all the posts about how the whole season was a "waste of time." 

Not that we don't have a chance, but the overwhelmingly likely outcome is we don't. 

I have to be brutally honest though, you play a team like Philadelphia and the bats in the lineup just feel like a different class. It doesn't feel like you ever get an easy out. 

It's weird being a Brewers fan and always being in it these last 7 or so years. What they have achieved even without winning anything has been beyond anything I envisioned for this team as a child. 

[Recovering Chicagoan]

1 minute ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

I'm dreading the night we don't win the World Series and I have to read all the posts about how the whole season was a "waste of time." 

Not that we don't have a chance, but the overwhelmingly likely outcome is we don't. 

I have to be brutally honest though, you play a team like Philadelphia and the bats in the lineup just feel like a different class. It doesn't feel like you ever get an easy out. 

It's weird being a Brewers fan and always being in it these last 7 or so years. What they have achieved even without winning anything has been beyond anything I envisioned for this team as a child. 

Yes. Mixed feelings for sure.

[Brewluver]

10 minutes ago, Recovering Chicagoan said:

 I still would think how difficult it is to win the World Series. So many things have to go the Brewers' way. It often seems like it may never happen, yet I realize it likely will happen at some point in the future. Maybe not in my lifetime, though, and I'm 49. 

Dude there's always next year.

Don't let these blokes get you down.

[Recovering Chicagoan]

3 minutes ago, Brewluver said:

Dude there's always next year.

 

Until there isn't. 😁

[Brewluver]

41 minutes ago, treego14 said:

Such a low blow ... you must go!

C'mon man, she's a great gymnast !!

[Jim French Stepstool]

4 hours ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

I'm dreading the night we don't win the World Series and I have to read all the posts about how the whole season was a "waste of time." 

Not that we don't have a chance, but the overwhelmingly likely outcome is we don't. 

I have to be brutally honest though, you play a team like Philadelphia and the bats in the lineup just feel like a different class. It doesn't feel like you ever get an easy out. 

It's weird being a Brewers fan and always being in it these last 7 or so years. What they have achieved even without winning anything has been beyond anything I envisioned for this team as a child. 

That's those individual posters' problem, really.

The FO is going about it in the absolutely correct way. Scouting & drafting, development, choosing the right people to roll the dice on & sign long-term---it's a different world from the teams that can throw money at their problems to cover their mistakes. And all teams to an extent have to get lucky to win it all in a sport with the randomness of baseball. Do we have to maybe get a little luckier, with the soft base hits, the loud outs? With health? And yeah, with a checked-swing call in the 9th inning? I think that's a fair assessment. Like I pointed out earlier, you battle a team like this, try to hold down the top 3-4 hitters----and then Stott, Marsh, & Bader combine for nine hits? Really? 

It's a tough game, for the players that have to deal with playing almost every day for 6-7 months, and for fans who live & die with each game. It's toughest for the ones who have what I call the 'NFL mentality'---where you can do a complete 180 degree turn attitude-wise after 2 or 3 losses, despite the fact that it's a marathon of a season, not an 18 game thing (or whatever the NFL plays these days).

Maybe it's a little easier for me. I enjoy the big picture, the FO decisions & maneuvering. I appreciate the hard work & dedication that goes into accomplishing what they have & putting themselves in the position they're in despite having one hand tied behind their back. It's damned impressive.

[treego14]

12 hours ago, adambr2 said:

I mean it counts as a deal, though not a deadline deal, and Vaughn had some tremendously impactful moments this summer.

I think it’s fair to question though whether he’s going to be a long-term impact guy here rather than more of a Rowdy Tellez-like fun flash in the pan.

Vaughn is the real deal!

[Brian]

16 hours ago, adambr2 said:

I mean it counts as a deal, though not a deadline deal, and Vaughn had some tremendously impactful moments this summer.

I think it’s fair to question though whether he’s going to be a long-term impact guy here rather than more of a Rowdy Tellez-like fun flash in the pan.

I'm starting to think he may just need a break.  90 % of the Brewers get a break why not him? 

[adambr2]

9 minutes ago, Brian said:

I'm starting to think he may just need a break.  90 % of the Brewers gat a break why not him? 

He may get it when Hoskins comes back. I would say Vaughn has gotten less breaks due to a lack of viable alternatives. I am find with a break as long as it doesn’t mean more Jake Bauers in the meantime.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

16 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

He may get it when Hoskins comes back. I would say Vaughn has gotten less breaks due to a lack of viable alternatives. I am find with a break as long as it doesn’t mean more Jake Bauers in the meantime.

Hoskins is better than Vaughn. Vaughn could fall off a cliff completely and that was still an incredible acquisition, but it is quite clear looking at the portfolio that Hoskins is a better player. Happy to be wrong but Vaughn feels like Santana/Aguilar.

[82brewcrew82]

2 hours ago, treego14 said:

Vaughn is the real deal!

Not of late, he ain't great.

[Jim French Stepstool]

1 hour ago, adambr2 said:

He may get it when Hoskins comes back. I would say Vaughn has gotten less breaks due to a lack of viable alternatives. I am find with a break as long as it doesn’t mean more Jake Bauers in the meantime.

Vaughn definitely could use some down time. Like you said, there weren't any alternatives for the longest time w/both Hoskins & Bauers down. In the meantime, when he's at the plate he needs to remember what helped get him the hot streak in the first place. He's been chasing, and he wasn't before.

Not going to anoint Bauers or anything, but he was mostly fine yesterday. Worked an 0-2 count full, then chased ball four. Other than that he hit two balls hard & saved a run (at the time) with a play at 1B that Vaughn would've been iffy on, and Hoskins probably doesn't make. I wouldn't be surprised if he's here in October, given the makeup of post-season rosters.

[treego14]

1 hour ago, 82brewcrew82 said:

Not of late, he ain't great.

Bad luck ... he's not a schmuck!

[Brian]

3 hours ago, adambr2 said:

He may get it when Hoskins comes back. I would say Vaughn has gotten less breaks due to a lack of viable alternatives. I am find with a break as long as it doesn’t mean more Jake Bauers in the meantime.

Look at "The Big Dumper" Cal Raleigh's last month, he needs a break also. https://www.mlb.com/player/cal-raleigh-663728 

[RWeeksFan23]

On 9/1/2025 at 6:38 PM, adambr2 said:

Kind of how I felt about the quick hook on Ashby today.

He's been used often. He shouldn't have even been in the game in the first place...

[82brewcrew82]

21 hours ago, treego14 said:

Bad luck ... he's not a schmuck!

Sounds like an excuse........needs lesser use.

[treego14]

3 hours ago, 82brewcrew82 said:

Sounds like an excuse........needs lesser use.

A scout's eye who doesn't lie

CAN

see Vaughn's swing is the real thing!

 

[adambr2]

12 hours ago, RWeeksFan23 said:

He's been used often. He shouldn't have even been in the game in the first place...

Is there an effective reliever in the pen that hasn’t been used often? They’re all exhausted. 

[82brewcrew82]

5 hours ago, treego14 said:

A scout's eye who doesn't lie

CAN

see Vaughn's swing is the real thing!

 

Murph knows how Vaughn cowers

Why else play Jake Bauers