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2 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

.... right, but we were talking about how they'd configure the OF for the bottom of the 9th HAD they scored and you're the one who was adamantly against Frelick playing CF.

So... It's pretty valid question. 

If we're doing the 'I'm not the manager, so it doesn't matter,' thing, then your objection to him playing CF doesn't make much sense in the first place. 

He's our right fielder. That's all I was (am) saying.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

Yeah... these kids, for the most part, had nothing to do with the past losses. 

 

I'm choosing to continue to be optimistic. 

If it weren’t for the Brewer factor, I would still be feeling pretty decent.

I didn’t get this jaded overnight. It took years of scars.

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Posted
34 minutes ago, MuckyFingers said:

Just spitballing here, but maybe Murphy can have *both* Bauers and Vaughn in the lineup tomorrow?  Put Yelich in LF, Vaughn at 1st and DH Bauers.  And enough of this Yelich leading off and Turang batting third crap.

So how are you rounding out the OF?

Chourio can't play CF. He can play RF... but you really can't sit him. Would you be sitting Frelick? I wouldn't do that, even vs a lefty. 
 

Also, the Cubs are going back to Boyd tomorrow, so... it wouldn't make sense to start Bauers. I think you just go with the same lineup from Gm1. 

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Just now, BrewerFan said:

So how are you rounding out the OF?

Chourio can't play CF. He can play RF... but you really can't sit him. Would you be sitting Frelick? I wouldn't do that, even vs a lefty. 
 

Also, the Cubs are going back to Boyd tomorrow, so... it wouldn't make sense to start Bauers. I think you just go with the same lineup from Gm1. 

I can’t really buy that Chourio can’t play CF.

I know it’s a different animal than LF, but you still have to run.  He had to run on his 8th inning double. If they had no other options, he could not play CF in a playoff game? I just can’t believe that.

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2 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

Also, the Cubs are going back to Boyd tomorrow, so... it wouldn't make sense to start Bauers. I think you just go with the same lineup from Gm1. 

That has not been announced yet by the Cubs but he only threw 30 pitches. 

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3 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

I can’t really buy that Chourio can’t play CF.

I know it’s a different animal than LF, but you still have to run.  He had to run on his 8th inning double. If they had no other options, he could not play CF in a playoff game? I just can’t believe that.

Did you see him running on that 8th inning double?

Playing him in CF would be a huge mistake. He is not moving well. That ball got past PCA and he still barely made it into 2nd. 

But again... there's a lefty on the mound, so you don't need to make room for Bauers. I'd honestly consider swapping Yelich and Chourio. 

I don't think there's much question if this was the regular season, he'd be on the IL and then... probably be out for a month until it was 100% healed up... but it's not, so you play through it until you tear it too bad you can't play, but throwing him in CF is just ensuring it happens. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, BrewerFan said:

Did you see him running on that 8th inning double?

Playing him in CF would be a huge mistake. He is not moving well. That ball got past PCA and he still barely made it into 2nd. 

But again... there's a lefty on the mound, so you don't need to make room for Bauers. I'd honestly consider swapping Yelich and Chourio. 

I don't think there's much question if this was the regular season, he'd be on the IL and then... probably be out for a month until it was 100% healed up... but it's not, so you play through it until you tear it too bad you can't play, but throwing him in CF is just ensuring it happens. 

I actually didn’t see his double. That’s too bad if he’s that limited. You’re playing with fire with him even in the corners, then.

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2 minutes ago, Brian said:

That has not been announced yet by the Cubs but he only threw 30 pitches. 

It's pretty obvious it's going to be their All-Star starter on full rest in an elimination game.

If they decide to go with... Civale or Soroka(neither of whom have started for them)... we should send them a GREAT big gift basket. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

I actually didn’t see his double. That’s too bad if he’s that limited. You’re playing with fire with him even in the corners, then.

Yeah... you are. The kid is a gamer though. 

 

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1 minute ago, BrewerFan said:

It's pretty obvious it's going to be their All-Star starter on full rest in an elimination game.

If they decide to go with... Civale or Soroka(neither of whom have started for them)... we should send them a GREAT big gift basket. 

In a vacuum, sure...but Boyd hasn't pitched anywhere close to this many innings in a season since, checks notes, 2019.  Boyd has been scuffling down the stretch, and even if he does get the ball tomorrow he's going to be on an incredibly short leash.

 

My hope is Greg gets some false sense of hope with the likes of Brown, Civale, and Rea's clean innings in what we're essentially garbage time innings between games 1 and 2, and some of those guys find themselves trying to get outs in key spots in the middle innings tomorrow

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14 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

It's pretty obvious it's going to be their All-Star starter on full rest in an elimination game.

If they decide to go with... Civale or Soroka(neither of whom have started for them)... we should send them a GREAT big gift basket. 

After a short leash last outing.  Matthew Boyd ready for bounce-back opportunity vs. Brewers. Hopefully he will be on the struggle bus again. 

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53 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

Phillies look like they might take one today.

You could argue there’s a pretty good amount of pressure on the Dodgers for Game 4 if they don’t win tonight, knowing they have to go back to Philly for Game 5 if they lose tomorrow.

They got arms for days though 

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4 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

They got arms for days though 

Will always be the case though. They’re the Dodgers. Well run plus money. Sucks. Plenty of teams out there with money that don’t know how to run an organization, but the Dodgers are not among them.

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Just now, Brian said:

It looks like it will be an 8 PM game tomorrow for the Brewers. 

It’s tough to sweep, even for the Dodgers.

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Brewers need the bats to get going early tomorrow. Take the pressure and put it square on the bats of the Cubs. Murphy don't overthink the lineup. Play your best players. Frelick Chourio Yelich Contreras Vaughn Turang Durbin Perkins Ortiz. Pinch hit Bauers for Ortiz anytime there are men on base. Regardless of the inning. No bunting. Swing the bats.

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1 minute ago, Bulldogboy said:

Brewers need the bats to get going early tomorrow. Take the pressure and put it square on the bats of the Cubs. Murphy don't overthink the lineup. Play your best players. Frelick Chourio Yelich Contreras Vaughn Turang Durbin Perkins Ortiz. Pinch hit Bauers for Ortiz anytime there are men on base. Regardless of the inning. No bunting. Swing the bats.

That’s what I want to see. Go for the throat. Get them panicked. Execute. Finish this.

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4 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

Will always be the case though. They’re the Dodgers. Well run plus money. Sucks. Plenty of teams out there with money that don’t know how to run an organization, but the Dodgers are not among them.

Its all about the TV deal that nobody else in baseball comes close to matching - it allows for most of their marquee players to get paid huge sums of deferred $$ later, and not worry about those future revenue hits even denting what those future team payrolls can be due to inflation and tv revenues.

 

Well run? Sure - but the advantages they have over everyone else, even the Yankees, at the moment are just not a fair fight.

 

I hold out hope its egregious enough that the rest of MLB forces changes to the financial structure of the game, to at least force out the accounting gimmickry the Dodgers can get away with and count deferred dollars in contracts towards present payrolls for luxury tax or salary cap purposes, dollar for dollar.

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5 minutes ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

Its all about the TV deal that nobody else in baseball comes close to matching - it allows for most of their marquee players to get paid huge sums of deferred $$ later, and not worry about those future revenue hits even denting what those future team payrolls can be due to inflation and tv revenues.

 

Well run? Sure - but the advantages they have over everyone else, even the Yankees, at the moment are just not a fair fight.

 

I hold out hope its egregious enough that the rest of MLB forces changes to the financial structure of the game, to at least force out the accounting gimmickry the Dodgers can get away with and count deferred dollars in contracts towards present payrolls for luxury tax or salary cap purposes, dollar for dollar.

The deferred money deal they were able to pull off with Ohtani basically wrecked baseball.

Posted
4 minutes ago, greenlawler said:

How can we get Bauer, Vaughn and Yelich in the same lineup? 

Yelich would have to play Left Field. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Brian said:

Yelich would have to play Left Field. 

Or Bauers.

If it’s Boyd tomorrow, there’s no need to get Bauers in the lineup.

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1 hour ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

In a vacuum, sure...but Boyd hasn't pitched anywhere close to this many innings in a season since, checks notes, 2019.  Boyd has been scuffling down the stretch, and even if he does get the ball tomorrow he's going to be on an incredibly short leash.

 

My hope is Greg gets some false sense of hope with the likes of Brown, Civale, and Rea's clean innings in what we're essentially garbage time innings between games 1 and 2, and some of those guys find themselves trying to get outs in key spots in the middle innings tomorrow

Yeah, the innings would be a bigger deal, but he's a lefty soft tosser and... they really don't have many other options. Hell, they don't really have any. That was their choice for Gm1.

They went with Rea for 60 pitches 2 days ago, so... not sure he'd get too many. I'm sure he'll be available, all hands on deck and all that. 

Civale on the other hand... I GUESS he could be an option to start... and if the Cubs were up 2-1 instead of down, maybe they go to him as the starter, but... I just don't see any scenario it's not Boyd.


I hope the Brewers take a patient approach as I would assume Boyd will adjust his pitcher and give less first pitch Fastballs given how the Brewers jumped on them. 


Chicago doesn't have a pitcher that scares me though. Their lineup can be a bit troubling, but we've really shut that down save for Busch. I'd be hitting Bush 3rd and maybe even Tucker 1st, but that's for the Cubs to worry about. 

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