Giants (Webb) vs Brewers (TBD): 6/3/26, 6:40pm

[willie key]

13 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Last year in Game 5 he wasn't dealing with a hammate injury sapping him of his bat speed

 

 

8 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Vaughn wasn’t coming off a broken hamate bone with regressed bat speed in that moment. He’s looked significantly worse against RHP this year than he did last year.

I’m ok with that.   I was under the impression that people think he should never hit against righties.   Which is beyond asinine

[yfinn6]

I have a hard time blaming Vaughn at all. He hit didn't get a hit in the 9th but he moved Yeli into scoring position with less than 2 out. Turang just had a terrible AB. 

I thought the game was lost in the 8th inning. That was just all sorts of stupid. 

[wiguy94]

3 minutes ago, trwi7 said:

Of the Brewers 7 hardest hit balls today, Vaughn had two of them.

Both straight into the ground with very low xBA. They were not well hit balls. 

[wiguy94]

Just now, yfinn6 said:

I have a hard time blaming Vaughn at all. He hit didn't get a hit in the 9th but he moved Yeli into scoring position with less than 2 out. Turang just had a terrible AB. 

I thought the game was lost in the 8th inning. That was just all sorts of stupid. 

I don’t think anyone is blaming Vaughn. Today was just a good example of why until his bat speed is back the team is a better team with him on the bench against RHP

[adambr2]

Murphy: (Perkins) “has hit the ball really well against RHP”

Sir, .182/.270/.273/.543 is not good. It just isn’t .000/.086/.000/.086 historically bad, You’re not grading on a curve. If a player with 4 season HR stands next to a player with 0 season HR, that does not make the player with 4 HR a power hitter. Good heavens.

[Bulldogboy]

27 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

No spin. 

I've heard Murphy refer to many players in an affectionate way since he's been here. Does he show more affinity for someone who's struggling? Sure. There are 29 other managers in MLB who do the same thing. And like I said, if he's a 'loving daddy' he's a pretty piss-poor one since Perkins has been optioned twice.

And when does Arnold even comment about his personal feelings regarding players?

He's been terrible, no doubt. Given the injury timeline (Lockridge), 40-man considerations (Lara), and defensive maneuvering/depth considerations, not to mention an OF on the roster who apparently can't be put in the OF, who in your opinion should be here instead of him? You might not believe this, but I was just as frustrated by the bunt attempt as you were. But take a little time to look at all the considerations & realize it's a little more complicated than 😫😫😫😫 HE SUCKS!!!! GET RID OF HIM!!!!😫😫😫

 

So according to you there are so many considerations that have to be considered before the brass tacks of this player is not a mlb caliber player? Insane. If so then no need to watch Brewers baseball. They are done. The one and only considerations that I want considered is does this player help us win a ball game. In Perkins case the answer is not one bit. You have Mitchell and Chourio and even Frelick who can cover center field. Perkins could be replaced by Tyler Black tomorrow and you wouldn't even know he was gone. To go this hard defending a guy who can't hit or bunt in mlb is really wishcasting. 

[Bulldogboy]

6 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

Murphy: (Perkins) “has hit the ball really well against RHP”

Sir, .182/.270/.273/.543 is not good. It just isn’t .000/.086/.000/.086 historically bad, You’re not grading on a curve. If a player with 4 season HR stands next to a player with 0 season HR, that does not make the player with 4 HR a power hitter. Good heavens.

Fireable offense in all honesty if he really believes this.

[LouisEly]

58 minutes ago, yfinn6 said:

Can't Sal bunt?! He can likely do it better than Perkins. 

Sal OPS vs LHP this year: .390

If he had left him in and he didn't execute, people would be b****ing that they didn't PH for him because he can't hit LHP.

[adambr2]

36 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

 

Perkins has been terrible, no doubt. Given the injury timeline (Lockridge), 40-man considerations (Lara), and defensive maneuvering/depth considerations, not to mention an OF on the roster who apparently can't be put in the OF, who in your opinion should be here instead of him? 

Luis Lara. Luis Matos. Jett Williams. Heck, Akil Baddoo. Someone available in trade. The best available free agent outfielder. 

There is nowhere to go but up.

[adambr2]

1 minute ago, LouisEly said:

Sal OPS vs LHP this year: .390

If he had left him in and he didn't execute, people would be b****ing that they didn't PH for him because he can't hit LHP.

Blake Perkins OPS overall: .319

[LouisEly]

Just now, adambr2 said:

Blake Perkins OPS overall: .319

Blake Perkins vs LHP this year: .543

Not great, but a lot better than Sal's .390

[yfinn6]

1 minute ago, LouisEly said:

Blake Perkins vs LHP this year: .543

Not great, but a lot better than Sal's .390

Are we asking Sal to hit the ball in the gap or to put the bunt down?

[LouisEly]

Just now, yfinn6 said:

Are we asking Sal to hit the ball in the gap or to put the bunt down?

How do you know for sure that he would put a bunt down successfully against a LHP who is averaging 13.0 K/9?

[adambr2]

2 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

Blake Perkins vs LHP this year: .543

Not great, but a lot better than Sal's .390

He sent him up there to sac bunt, what difference does it make? 

Perkins has 3 successful sacrifices in his entire career.

[Bulldogboy]

2 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

Luis Lara. Luis Matos. Jett Williams. Heck, Akil Baddoo. Someone available in trade. The best available free agent outfielder. 

There is nowhere to go but up.

According to Jim Fregosi Blake Perkins is the one and only person who meets the criteria of bench outfielder. 

[adambr2]

Just now, LouisEly said:

How do you know for sure that he would put a bunt down successfully against a LHP who is averaging 13.0 K/9?

I know for sure that Perkins did not.

[yfinn6]

Just now, LouisEly said:

How do you know for sure that he would put a bunt down successfully against a LHP who is averaging 13.0 K/9?

I like his chances better than I like Perkins just because of the lefty/righty split no matter how often you want to change the metrics you're choosing. Frelick had at least seen game pitches. Perkins gets like 5 ABs a week and we're expecting him to execute that play? 

If the goal was to move the runner up, I would take my regular who has excellent bat control despite mediocre results than the guy who has done this same exact play multiple times this year. 

[wallus]

Some of you are going to have a heart attack before this season is over.

[yfinn6]

Just now, wallus said:

Some of you are going to have a heart attack before this season is over.

You have 275 posts on this site. I've been here since the really dark days. I don't think you need to worry. 

[wallus]

1 minute ago, yfinn6 said:

You have 275 posts on this site. I've been here since the really dark days. I don't think you need to worry. 

My account got re-set by Brock when I got a new phone and the website was having issues. I've been here longer than you have, thanks for noticing.

[adambr2]

Not many can compete with my 35,520 🤣 (I probably shouldn’t be proud of that.)

[Jim French Stepstool]

2 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

So according to you there are so many considerations that have to be considered before the brass tacks of this player is not a mlb caliber player? Insane. If so then no need to watch Brewers baseball. They are done. The one and only considerations that I want considered is does this player help us win a ball game. In Perkins case the answer is not one bit. You have Mitchell and Chourio and even Frelick who can cover center field. Perkins could be replaced by Tyler Black tomorrow and you wouldn't even know he was gone. To go this hard defending a guy who can't hit or bunt in mlb is really wishcasting. 

Apparently you didn't read my post. There was no defending of Blake Perkins & his recent play; quite the opposite.

The last thing they need is another LHH 1B-OF on the roster. Black was here mainly because Vaughn wasn't, and even then it wasn't a great fit. He MIGHT work if Yelich could play LF, but that seems unlikely save for an emergency. They don't trust Black's glove (I know that's relatively unimportant to you). And you might not ever hear them say this, but I suspect they aren't real nuts about Chourio playing a lot of CF.

They're down Lockridge, They have 3 LHH OFs on the roster if you count Yelich, four if you count Bauers (apparently you want to add a fifth) and as of about 3 weeks ago Blake Perkins had very solid #s hitting from the right side. That's gone way south, no doubt about it. Considering the roster makeup & the points I made earlier, I get them giving him a longer leash. It hasn't worked. Your 'one and only consideration' is moot, because there's more than just one.

If you think this is a reason to not watch Brewers baseball & because of the way they run the organization they're "done", then I guess don't follow them. 

BTW, Jett Williams played CF tonite for Nashville which is significant; he's only been there a handful of times. This organization isn't asleep at the wheel. They just aren't as reactionary as the average fan board poster--and thank God for that. 

 

[adambr2]

1 minute ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

Apparently you didn't read my post. There was no defending of Blake Perkins & his recent play; quite the opposite.

The last thing they need is another LHH 1B-OF on the roster. Black was here mainly because Vaughn wasn't, and even then it wasn't a great fit. He MIGHT work if Yelich could play LF, but that seems unlikely save for an emergency. They don't trust Black's glove (I know that's relatively unimportant to you). And you might not ever hear them say this, but I suspect they aren't real nuts about Chourio playing a lot of CF.

They're down Lockridge, They have 3 LHH OFs on the roster if you count Yelich, four if you count Bauers (apparently you want to add a fifth) and as of about 3 weeks ago Blake Perkins had very solid #s hitting from the right side. That's gone way south, no doubt about it. Considering the roster makeup & the points I made earlier, I get them giving him a longer leash. It hasn't worked. Your 'one and only consideration' is moot, because there's more than just one.

If you think this is a reason to not watch Brewers baseball & because of the way they run the organization they're "done", then I guess don't follow them. 

BTW, Jett Williams played CF tonite for Nashville which is significant; he's only been there a handful of times. This organization isn't asleep at the wheel. They just aren't as reactionary as the average fan board poster--and thank God for that. 

 

I see no real problem with just DFAing Perkins, giving his spot to Lara (who is clearly going to be on the 40 within a year anyway), and calling him up. 

I know people are worried about the playing time for Lara, but I don’t think just giving him a cup of coffee for now so he can get acclimated to the bigs, and potentially go back down when Lockridge comes back up, is the worst thing.

That would be my move. You have your extra OF and a switch hitter.

I know people are worried about burning an option, but if you’re going into the 2029 season and fretting about Lara being out of options, then you probably know by this point that he did not work out anyway.

[Bulldogboy]

10 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

Apparently you didn't read my post. There was no defending of Blake Perkins & his recent play; quite the opposite.

The last thing they need is another LHH 1B-OF on the roster. Black was here mainly because Vaughn wasn't, and even then it wasn't a great fit. He MIGHT work if Yelich could play LF, but that seems unlikely save for an emergency. They don't trust Black's glove (I know that's relatively unimportant to you). And you might not ever hear them say this, but I suspect they aren't real nuts about Chourio playing a lot of CF.

They're down Lockridge, They have 3 LHH OFs on the roster if you count Yelich, four if you count Bauers (apparently you want to add a fifth) and as of about 3 weeks ago Blake Perkins had very solid #s hitting from the right side. That's gone way south, no doubt about it. Considering the roster makeup & the points I made earlier, I get them giving him a longer leash. It hasn't worked. Your 'one and only consideration' is moot, because there's more than just one.

If you think this is a reason to not watch Brewers baseball & because of the way they run the organization they're "done", then I guess don't follow them. 

BTW, Jett Williams played CF tonite for Nashville which is significant; he's only been there a handful of times. This organization isn't asleep at the wheel. They just aren't as reactionary as the average fan board poster--and thank God for that. 

 

I don't wanna hear anything you have to say explaining why Perkins is here. I just want him gone and you should too. He doesn't deserve to be here playing at his current level and is hurting the ability to win games. If the ability to actually play baseball is not real consideration on who stays and who goes then yes this organization is cooked. 

[Jopal78]

10 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

I see no real problem with just DFAing Perkins, giving his spot to Lara (who is clearly going to be on the 40 within a year anyway), and calling him up. 

I know people are worried about the playing time for Lara, but I don’t think just giving him a cup of coffee for now so he can get acclimated to the bigs, and potentially go back down when Lockridge comes back up, is the worst thing.

That would be my move. You have your extra OF and a switch hitter.

I know people are worried about burning an option, but if you’re going into the 2029 season and fretting about Lara being out of options, then you probably know by this point that he did not work out anyway.

Or bring him up and send Frelick down when Lockridge is healthy. Clearly the league has adjusted to Frelick where pulling the ball worked for him last year but hasn’t been working so far this year. 
 

I think a fair criticism of Murphy is Frelick’s OPS is barely above .600 yet he’s third on the team in PAs behind Turang and Contreras.