04/09/04 Astros (Miller) @ Brewers (Obermueller)

[Harold Hutchison]

No kidding. Overbay had a deep fly out, too.

 

Unfortunately, we could have used those additional runs - the Astros are gtting to Wes in the 6th.

[rluzinski]

I wonder if Yost will wait until every starting pitcher this year falls apart before pulling them.

 

Obermeller is an odd guy. He has alot of movement on his pitches, but doesn't have much control at all. Rarely did it seem like Bennet got the ball where he wanted it. Still, it was working well enough until the 6th.

[Harold Hutchison]

rluzinski

 

Wes usually was able to rack up quality starts last year. 8-for-11, IIRC.

 

The problem is, he's opposite Wade Miller, and the Astros seem to be laying off on the third go-round through the lineup.

[SoCalBrewfan]

Did anyone else feel like they saw that coming? I was sitting here trying to get a tiny bit of work done while I checked the game here and there...then I saw Bagwell, Kent, et al starting the sixth...wondered will the wheels come off for Obermeuller?

 

I might have yanked him, to take advantage of the much-ballyhooed guys who can go multiple innings. Then again, Ford isn't looking particularly special either...

[DHonks]

I can't agree rluzinski. Wes had very good control today, changing speeds and placing pitches where he wanted against a VERY tough lineup. He also showed no signs of being tired. I was kind of surprised Yost pulled him when he did. Yes, we should have a good pen. But when the pitcher is holding his own against a tough lineup, and has a rather low pitch count for the 6th inning, I would stick with him.

[endaround]

He didn't have a low pitch count. He was at least at 90 pitches and just given up two doubles and a walk.

[pogokat]

by particularly special, did you mean freaking awful???

 

 

it seems like the astros score every time i turn on the tv....man, the top of the 6th has been ugly...and theres still just one out

[SoCalBrewfan]

I should add of course that I'm just watching lines of text on the screen, so I can't see whether a pitcher looks tired, etc...appreciate the insights from those who can.

 

And, honestly, there's something to be said for letting a guy like Obermeuller face those guys, take his lumps or pull it off, and learn from the experience either way.

[SoCalBrewfan]

pogo...I was trying to be polite given phearinc's preference for a family website.

[pogokat]

id like to clear up that i was talking about ford, not obie...ford pretty much hernandez-ed it after obie went out....

 

i like the ground balls that obie gets...i dont like that half of them are hits...

[pogokat]

well, the grand slam seals it...this is the worst inning of the season

[endaround]

Ahhhhh! There are the Brewers I remember!

[RobertR]

Well that's a reality check. Not much to say except that the pitching staff really isn't that deep and still has a lot of question marks. I guess that's not really news.

 

Robert

[FVBrewerFan]

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If Yost had a couple of guys in the bully he could trust I'm sure he would have pulled Obey sooner. Looks like nothing but gas cans out there so far this year. Just to get off on a slight tangent, no excuse for even the lowest payroll team to have two real solid vets in the pen. Doesn't cost much, and you know you're going to need them.

[Katuluu]

Really, the big inning is Kinney's fault.

[badgerfan.tgf]

Two appearances for Ben Ford and I'm ready to send him to AAA. Kieschnick wasn't much better. So much for that good feeling I had about the Brewers. Games like today bring me right back to reality. Gotta win tomorrow.

[SoCalBrewfan]

Hehe.

 

The good news is, Wade Miller's probably pretty tight after 82 pitches and watching his team put up a nine-spot.

[xisxisxis]

The good news is, Wade Miller's probably pretty tight after 82 pitches and watching his team put up a nine-spot.

 

Willing to put money on that?

[Katuluu]

He sure looked tight while striking out Counsell and Spivey.

[SoCalBrewfan]

Ol' sarcasm meters got busted I guess.

[pabrewerfan]

I am surprised...I wasn't expecting Counsell and Spivey to be as bad as they are. I thought they would be at least respectable. They are automatic outs.

 

What are these guys...a combined 5-40?

[endaround]

Yeah, well even St Louis pitchers were able to strike out Counsell and Spivey.

[xisxisxis]

It's only the fifth game of the season, they might wake up by the All-Star break.

[SoCalBrewfan]

I think Counsell's world series rings make it tough for him to swing the bat.

[endaround]

Woohoo!!!! Polish has taken the early lead in the sausage standings!