I guess I don't understand either. Should we blame David Stearns for our lack of success in the late 90's when Stearns was 12-13 years old? Generally speaking, sure we can be tired of 30+ years of a lot of nothing as fans.... but that has nothing to do with our current GM or current situation and using that as a base for being upset for not going after a free agent(s), if you are implying that, is kind of silly I think. If you are not implying that, then this is the wrong forum for that thought. This is a rumor and proposal board. General venting should be done elsewhere. I think the discussion here fits ok. I get your point though. We used to have dedicated venting threads in the MLB forum, and they inevitably always went poorly, some iterations quicker than others. Since, as a community, BF decided to not do the dedicated vent thread thing anymore, I don't see a problem with this thread. The discussion has been civil, and there's really not a significantly better place for this topic to live -- since it's about being impatient or patient about the number of moves this offseason. Maybe other mods feel differently, and I hope they chime in if they do. I think this discussion is in the right forum, & not straying anywhere near the levels of toxicity we'd see in the dedicated vent threads.